Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 00:09:48 -0700
Reply-To: Scott - IMAP <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott - IMAP <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Puzzled by thesamba instructions: Convert 82D fan wiring to
'86 fan.
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the rule to remember which is which on the radiator is 'down and out' ..
the hose nipple pointing more downward is 'out' on the rad.
I think you'll find that's true.
On 7/20/2016 9:06 PM, William D. Pool wrote:
> Martin,
>
> The 82 & 83 radiator have the return & feed hoses on the same sides. The only difference is the return hose on the 82 has a metal tube that’s longer that you don’t use on the 83+ converted setup since the hose port is lower not higher on the radiator.
>
> They are NOT swapped that I have seen. It’s also shown on the Bentley, so yes you want to make sure you got the proper rad —> coolant hose —> coolant pipe on the proper side.
>
> If you don’t know, you may want to trace from the engine what the return line is that way you KNOW which pipe it is. I would suggest marking that pipe for reference if you ever remove the hoses again.
>
> -Will
>
>
>> On Jul 20, 2016, at 8:25 PM, Poppie Jagersand <poppie.jagersand@YAHOO.CA> wrote:
>>
>> Got the fan wiring figured out, The puzzling thing about the 86 setup is that the high speed control line goes back up the wiring harness (into the cab). I ended up just connecting it at the fan instead.
>>
>> 82 thick red 12V -> 86 red/white
>> 82 brown (ground) -> 86 brown.
>> Two remaining wires in 86 harness tied together.
>>
>> Now realize I hooked hot coolant to the bottom ant cold reurn to the top (like it was on the 82). The 86 rad is usually hooked up the opposite way. Does this matter?
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 11:14 PM, William D. Pool <rotaechojunk@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>
>>
>> This main linke is likely better:
>>
>> http://www.vanagondiesel.info/index.php/Coolant_System#Radiator_Fan_Electrical
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 19, 2016, at 10:12 PM, William D. Pool <rotaechojunk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Have you looked at:
>>>
>>> http://www.vanagondiesel.info/index.php/Coolant_System#Radiator_Fan_Electrical
>>>
>>> I wrote it up for myself, and revised it for another I helped out recently.
>>>
>>>> On Jul 19, 2016, at 9:02 PM, Poppie Jagersand <poppie.jagersand@YAHOO.CA> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Managed to make upper mounts:https://webdocs.cs.ualberta.ca/~jag/Pictures/UpperMounts/
>>>> Still haven't figured out fan wiring.
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 4:42 PM, Poppie Jagersand <poppie.jagersand@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Today I pulled a radiator assembly off an '86 non-AC vanagon to install in my '82 Diesel. I have some questions on (1) Wiring the fan. (2) Making an upper mount.
>>>>
>>>> 1. Wiring the fan. I read the swap instruction on thesamaba:
>>>> http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=297989
>>>>
>>>> "Here's how to splice the new three prong temp sensor connector onto your existing wiring:
>>>> The wiring will require a voltmeter or test light. There should be 4
>>>> wires, 2 of a larger gauge and 2 of a smaller gauge.
>>>> With all 4 wires unplugged, test them each for voltage to chassis
>>>> ground. One of each pair will be live, so mark it.
>>>>
>>>> The live wire of the smaller gauge is not needed so tape it off.
>>>> The other small wire should go to the red/blue of the new pigtail.
>>>> The large live wire should go to the red/white of the new pigtail.
>>>> The other large wire should go to the red/black of the new pigtail."
>>>>
>>>> I cut the wiring at the firewall on the '86. I don't have the same colors as in thesamba post. Also I don;t understand how the rad is grounded with the above instructions.
>>>>
>>>> My wires are: Brown, Red, Red/white, Red/blue.
>>>>
>>>> Why are there four wires going to the fan assembly? Since I cut the wires at the firewall, before the thermoswitch I had expected 2 wires: positive and ground.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone knows how to splice up the '86 wires Brown, Red, Red/white, Red/blue to the '82 wires: 2 thick red, 2 thin brownish.
>>>>
>>>> 2. I tried to break off the upper rad mount on the '86 donor, but the spotwelds held up very well and I couldn't get it off. Any suggestions for how to make an upper mount?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Martin
>>
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