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Date:         Fri, 15 Jul 2016 08:16:45 -0300
Reply-To:     Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNET.NB.CA>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNET.NB.CA>
Subject:      Re: Starter related question.
Comments: To: OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <E9CAABB6-7D9B-4FEA-B412-D524DB34847A@comcast.net>
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That was my assessment of the situation. I was a little confused by the “remove the throttle body”, then I realized he was talking about going at the starter from the top. I plan to tackle it from underneath.

Once I have confirmation the starter is indeed dead, I am debating a shift to a TDi starter (SR0408X) w/ adaptor, rather than another WBX starter. It still looks like I should have room to install the larger starter without having to remove an axle.

> On 14-Jul-2016, at 21:54, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote: > > If It Is a 2WD there is no reason to remove anything other than the Cables & SecuringBolts ~ > > Access is QuiteGood from DownUnder, Preferably with the BackEnd Up On Ramps ~ > > Battery Should, OfCourse, be disconnected 1st ~ > > ORR ~ DeanB > > > On 14 Jul , 2016, at 3:46 PM, C. Abney wrote: > >> Things you have to remove to pull the starter: the battery >> ground(:-*), and (probably) the throttle body. At least, doing that >> makes removing that long hex head screw easy. >> >> I don't think you have to remove the axle. I can't say for sure >> though, because when I removed the starter on my vanagon I had already >> removed the axles. >> >> On 7/13/16, Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: >>> All, >>> >>> Tuesday morning we had a “no crank” situation in the Hyena (’88 2.1 WBX) and >>> were “late for swimming lessons” as I shifted the kid pod from the Westy >>> back to "Mom’s car”. >>> >>> My multimeter and kit is at another location - I’ll fetch it on Friday - but >>> today at lunch I had 15-minutes so I pulled the plug off the ignition switch >>> and stuck a strand of 14/2 Nomax between 12V and 50. I head what sounded >>> like the solenoid “slam” into place, but only the once. I then went aft >>> with my stand of 14/2 and bridged #50 at the solenoid … nothing. >>> >>> Batter seems fine … according to the simple meter on the charger … will >>> measure this again with multimeter. >>> >>> So it is looking like the {original} starter has packed it in … I’ll go out >>> on Saturday morning with the meter just to make certain I’m getting all the >>> required voltage at all the required places. >>> >>> While I was under there, I noted there is nothing attached to #16 on the >>> solenoid … isn’t there suppose to be a connection to the ignition system >>> (coil) here? >>> >>> Let’s assume I need to replace the starter. >>> 1) Do I really need to disconnect the right axle to do this {as I was told >>> over the phone today}? It looks like I should be able to get at all the >>> bolts (after a little cleaning) … not as easy as the ’66, but should be >>> possible. >>> 2) Is there an improvement that can be made over the OEM starter? {i.e. >>> something like a starter from a mk2 jetta i4 that is cheaper to procure} >>> 3) Is a rebuilt starter worth the cost savings (50%)? >>> 4) Was there any significant change in the starter over the years? The >>> Hyena is a 1988, but I know of a possible ’84 donor nearby. >>> >>> I also noted a couple more ground straps that need cleaning/attention >>> (including the one between the solenoid and starter) … I’ll take care of >>> these before ordering a new starter. I’ve never had a starter fail >>> completely w/o any prior warning before, so I’m not 100% convinced I do not >>> have another notoriously bad ground/earth. >>> >>> I may as well use this as an opportunity to remove all that current from the >>> ignition switch and install some additional relays. >>> >>> Roy >>> >> >> >> -- >> There's no .sig like the present


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