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Date:         Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:37:13 -0700
Reply-To:     T3 Technique <christopher@T3TECHNIQUE.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         T3 Technique <christopher@T3TECHNIQUE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Looking for some history
Comments: To: Scott Quinnett <dragonflyvans@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <CAO_Sdh6YjmJAvRnu_6EOMQ18suB=Q8FsWC79FBSFusonGLx6ow@mail.gmail.com>
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I think the hard part about the shift lever is that the break could very well have resulted from the cumulative occasional bouts with "can't get it into gear" that happens over time, especially with people that are unfamiliar with these rigs. I guess what I'm trying to say is that while you obviously have evidence that your van was not treated all that kindly, there is a chance that the broken lever may not actually be this persons fault. I have never broken one myself, but I do know of some true Vanagon owners that have had there's break "out of the blue". This is what makes me think that the breaks can easily result from multiple small/minor abuses over the lifetime and then one day it just gives up.

I'm definitely not in favor of letting your client off free of charge for some of the damage they did to your van, but just saying that there is a precedent for the levers breaking somewhat unexpectedly.

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Scott Quinnett Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 8:54 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Looking for some history

Hi all, I had a van come back with both a broken shift assembly(at the floor where the rod pivots/hemisphere at the base of the shift lever) as well as having the van dragged down the side of some fairly severe bushes. I know what it takes to rub the paint with bushes and I'd qualify it as being extreme and without care, but in 27 years I've never broken or seen any break the shift assembly at the floor. I am putting this out here for any knowledge of, or experience with, having broken one. Anything helps and it could be in favor of "the breaker" I just need a little feed back. Right now I feel pretty hostile regarding this client and I need to try give him the benefit of the doubt. BTW, neither of these events(damage) where mentioned when he dropped it off. Yes, I know, you should check it over on return etc etc. I do it, the shift assembly came as a surprise as I've never seen it happen and never check that aspect, until now. What does it take to break this?

Thank you,

-- Scott Quinnett www.dragonflyvans.com 406-552-2980 dragonflyvans@gmail.com


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