Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 13:20:15 -0700
Reply-To: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: new guy
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dear 1.6 t w/5speed
hard not to enter this conversation -
our van which was a JX Turbo with 5 seed
1989 California Model
was amazing - we still miss that van -
nearly 40 miles to the gallon in usa high speed freeway situations -
it kept up with traffic - indeed sometimes cutting the path -
it was very quiet - none of the clatter or shake of my cummins (L0L)
sigh
On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
> Forgot to mention it's the same setup your customer has, but it's a five
> speed. I think it gets to top end pretty well, probably like an automatic
> 2.1. It just tops out at 70. The five speed really helps.
>
> Jim
>
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 2:56 PM Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I don't care so much about the power steering, but now that my van is in
> > very good shape I keep noodling on the idea of installing that Behr under
> > dash unit boxed up in my shed.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 2:53 PM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I have a customer with the 1.6 turbo motor. It goes OK although 70
> really
> >> seems to be an upper limit and it takes time to get it there. They have
> >> travelled cross country and they love the fuel economy. For myself I
> would
> >> rather pay more for fuel, enjoy the quieter ride and have AC and power
> >> steering. I'm spoiled.
> >>
> >> Dennis
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> >> Of Roy Nicholl
> >> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 9:53 PM
> >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >> Subject: Re: new guy
> >>
> >> Ken,
> >>
> >> You put a turbo on that 1.6 … actually on the JX version of the 1.6 and
> >> it was just fine - some might argue better than the higher-revving
> 1.9TD(i)
> >> engines - in a fully loaded westy.
> >>
> >> I would like to try and put the 2.5l TDi from the 1996 - 2005 LT into a
> >> Westy.
> >>
> >> Roy
> >>
> >>
> >> > On 27-Aug-2016, at 15:58, kenneth wilford (Van-Again) <
> >> kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I grew up with VW diesels. My first car was a sweet 82 Diesel Caddy
> >> > (Rabbit Pickup). After that I owned diesel Rabbits, Golfs, Jetta
> >> > pretty much exclusively until mid 20s. I bought my first Vanagon
> >> > which was an 85 1.9l waterboxer but I really wanted a 1.6l diesel
> >> > Vanagon. They were rare even back in the late 90s. After working on
> >> > Vanagons and driving them daily for about 3 or 4 years a customer came
> >> > by with a diesel Westy with a recently rebuilt engine. I was excited!
> >> > Now I was finally going to get my favorite engine in a Vanagon. I
> >> > just had to drive it down my street to realize that while the 1.6l was
> >> > great in a small, light car, it stunk in a large, heavy, van. It was
> >> > scary to pull out into traffic at the end my street and there really
> >> > is no traffic here. I thought maybe it was just that van, but since
> >> > then I have owned a few and worked on several here at the shop. I
> >> > have one customer who bought his new and keeps it pristine and treats
> >> it really nice. The 1.6l powerplant is just too weak in the van.
> >> > You can't keep up with modern highway traffic (65-70 mph), the engine
> >> > is being pushed to it's limits all the time so they don't have the
> >> > long life they have in the cars. I would never recommend a 1.6l
> >> > diesel Vanagon to any person. If you want to do a conversion and put
> >> > a TDI in there, that is a whole other story. There are circumstances
> >> > where that might make sense and you have the power comparable to the
> >> waterboxer with more torque.
> >> >
> >> > It's just my opinion but I really wanted to like them and instead I
> >> > came to almost hate them.
> >> >
> >> > Ken
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Aug 27, 2016, 2:12 PM Karl Mullendore
> >> > <tdiguru@westyventures.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> In a heartbeat. Although preferably the factory JX turbodiesel that
> >> >> should have been sold here. Great success in Europe, but I guess the
> >> >> US buyers weren't quite 'ready' for diesels. The beauty is that every
> >> >> inline gas/diesel 4-cyl VW engine from 1974-1999 will bolt in when
> >> >> the original 1.6NA expires, which is hastened most times by heavy
> >> >> right feet and impatient drivers.
> >> >>
> >>
> >
>
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