Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 20:48:38 +0000
Reply-To: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: new guy
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Yes, it's a great combination. 27 mpg is my standard fare, though.
Jim
On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 3:20 PM Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@gmail.com>
wrote:
> dear 1.6 t w/5speed
>
> hard not to enter this conversation -
> our van which was a JX Turbo with 5 seed
> 1989 California Model
> was amazing - we still miss that van -
> nearly 40 miles to the gallon in usa high speed freeway situations -
> it kept up with traffic - indeed sometimes cutting the path -
> it was very quiet - none of the clatter or shake of my cummins (L0L)
>
> sigh
>
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Forgot to mention it's the same setup your customer has, but it's a five
>> speed. I think it gets to top end pretty well, probably like an automatic
>> 2.1. It just tops out at 70. The five speed really helps.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 2:56 PM Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I don't care so much about the power steering, but now that my van is in
>> > very good shape I keep noodling on the idea of installing that Behr
>> under
>> > dash unit boxed up in my shed.
>> >
>> > Jim
>> >
>> > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 2:53 PM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have a customer with the 1.6 turbo motor. It goes OK although 70
>> really
>> >> seems to be an upper limit and it takes time to get it there. They have
>> >> travelled cross country and they love the fuel economy. For myself I
>> would
>> >> rather pay more for fuel, enjoy the quieter ride and have AC and power
>> >> steering. I'm spoiled.
>> >>
>> >> Dennis
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>> Behalf
>> >> Of Roy Nicholl
>> >> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 9:53 PM
>> >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> >> Subject: Re: new guy
>> >>
>> >> Ken,
>> >>
>> >> You put a turbo on that 1.6 … actually on the JX version of the 1.6 and
>> >> it was just fine - some might argue better than the higher-revving
>> 1.9TD(i)
>> >> engines - in a fully loaded westy.
>> >>
>> >> I would like to try and put the 2.5l TDi from the 1996 - 2005 LT into a
>> >> Westy.
>> >>
>> >> Roy
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > On 27-Aug-2016, at 15:58, kenneth wilford (Van-Again) <
>> >> kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I grew up with VW diesels. My first car was a sweet 82 Diesel Caddy
>> >> > (Rabbit Pickup). After that I owned diesel Rabbits, Golfs, Jetta
>> >> > pretty much exclusively until mid 20s. I bought my first Vanagon
>> >> > which was an 85 1.9l waterboxer but I really wanted a 1.6l diesel
>> >> > Vanagon. They were rare even back in the late 90s. After working on
>> >> > Vanagons and driving them daily for about 3 or 4 years a customer
>> came
>> >> > by with a diesel Westy with a recently rebuilt engine. I was
>> excited!
>> >> > Now I was finally going to get my favorite engine in a Vanagon. I
>> >> > just had to drive it down my street to realize that while the 1.6l
>> was
>> >> > great in a small, light car, it stunk in a large, heavy, van. It was
>> >> > scary to pull out into traffic at the end my street and there really
>> >> > is no traffic here. I thought maybe it was just that van, but since
>> >> > then I have owned a few and worked on several here at the shop. I
>> >> > have one customer who bought his new and keeps it pristine and treats
>> >> it really nice. The 1.6l powerplant is just too weak in the van.
>> >> > You can't keep up with modern highway traffic (65-70 mph), the engine
>> >> > is being pushed to it's limits all the time so they don't have the
>> >> > long life they have in the cars. I would never recommend a 1.6l
>> >> > diesel Vanagon to any person. If you want to do a conversion and put
>> >> > a TDI in there, that is a whole other story. There are circumstances
>> >> > where that might make sense and you have the power comparable to the
>> >> waterboxer with more torque.
>> >> >
>> >> > It's just my opinion but I really wanted to like them and instead I
>> >> > came to almost hate them.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ken
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sat, Aug 27, 2016, 2:12 PM Karl Mullendore
>> >> > <tdiguru@westyventures.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> In a heartbeat. Although preferably the factory JX turbodiesel that
>> >> >> should have been sold here. Great success in Europe, but I guess the
>> >> >> US buyers weren't quite 'ready' for diesels. The beauty is that
>> every
>> >> >> inline gas/diesel 4-cyl VW engine from 1974-1999 will bolt in when
>> >> >> the original 1.6NA expires, which is hastened most times by heavy
>> >> >> right feet and impatient drivers.
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
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