Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 21:29:34 -0300
Reply-To: Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNET.NB.CA>
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From: Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNET.NB.CA>
Subject: Re: venting about irresponsible drivers
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David:
Any chance there are surveillance cameras in the area?
> On 29-Aug-2016, at 18:53, David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> I need to vent. A week ago (last Tuesday afternoon, actually), I took my
> 1991Volkswagen Vanagon GL Campmobile out to pick up some furniture. I
> stopped at a stop sign that controls entry from a ramp into a Y where two
> other roads enter. Both of those other roads have curves in their approach
> to the intersection that make the sight distance short.
>
> So, I stopped at the sign, then, creeped forward a bit to get a better view
> of oncoming traffic, and stopped again. Just after I stopped the second
> time, a vehicle hit the camper's rear bumper, thwack!. The damage was
> minor, a broken bumper on the passenger side rear, a small ding in the
> D-pillar, two mangled bumper mounts.
>
> The other driver and her husband both got out of their small SUV, as my
> wife and I did from the van. We all surveyed the damage. Their RAV4 had
> more, the grill, a headlight, a fender, the bumper all being sort of
> mangled. Their vehicle was about ten feet behind ours, which had been
> pushed forward by the impact.
>
> The other driver was exceedingly apologetic, saying over and over that she
> was extremely sorry that she had hit us, and that she was certain her
> insurance would take care of the damage. Her husband observed that the
> damage to our vehicle was minor AND THAT IT WAS QUITE OLD. I pointed out
> that being a classic and their being a hot market for these vans, I would
> have to fix it. He also said that their insurance would take care of it,
> and he pulled out registration papers and insurance card. We exchanged
> information, and both drove away.
>
> The next morning I called her insurance agent, and was referred to the
> claims department (of State Farm). At first I got the spiel from the
> adjuster about using the State Farm appraisal system. I listened politely
> and observed that I would get estimates from independent body shops. He
> demurred on that, but then said I would hear back from him later the same
> day.
>
> An hour later, a different person called me from State Farm to inform me
> that liability was denied, as the other driver stated that I had backed
> into her when she was stopped behind me. No witnesses except ourselves. I
> do not carry collision insurance, even on this rather pricey vehicle, as I
> prefer to drive self insured, expecting to pay my costs if I am at fault,
> and to rely on my liability insurance to fix the other driver.
>
> But that leaves me with no representation to collect from the other
> driver. I have considered small claims court. It will cost me about $2K
> to fix the camper. In court, it would just be my explanation against the
> other person's, with the only witnesses being the two drivers and their
> passengers, both spouses.
>
> Any advice? One thing I learned, despite police admonitions to just
> exchange information and be on your way, if I ever have another accident, I
> definitely will call in a patrol officer.
>
> mcneely
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