Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 21:14:34 -0300
Reply-To: Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNET.NB.CA>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNET.NB.CA>
Subject: Re: removing gmail warning from vanagon messages?
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Or ensure you have SPF configured and are putting the required X- headers for a mailing list in your envelope.
> On 05-Sep-2016, at 20:41, Tyler Hardison <tyler@SERAPH-NET.NET> wrote:
>
> This is correct. Gerry is technically spoofing emails from everyone
> everytime it sends out.
>
> I help manage the type2.com mailing lists and the problem is prevalent
> there too.
>
> Either we make the email appear to be from the originator, or we make it
> appear from the server.
>
> The latter keeps us (mostly) out of the spam folders, the first option is
> more asthetically pleasing. :-)
>
> --t
>
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Mike South <msouth@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Stuart is the winner, I think. It will require a modification of the list
>> server configuration. See:
>>
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14155604/avoid-
>> gmails-this-message-may-not-have-been-sent-by-using-sender-header
>>
>> Here are the headers of the email
>>
>>>
>>> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 17:23:37 -0700
>>> Reply-To: Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
>>> Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
>>> From: Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
>>> Subject: Re: removing gmail warning from vanagon messages?
>>
>>
>> It might work (according to that stackoverflow answer) for Gerry to set the
>> "from" header to something like "no-reply@gerry.vanagon.com". It already
>> sets the reply-to header correctly, so when you hit "reply" it will still
>> go to Stuart.
>>
>> Gmail owns both ends of the transaction--they know that Stuart didn't
>> actually send that email--gerry.vanagon.com sent it. So it sees a "From:
>> "
>> header in an email from gerry.vanagon.com, but it says From:
>> someone@gmail.com and says HEY WAIT A SEC *I'M* GMAIL! I WOULD KNOW IF I
>> SENT THAT--AND I DIDN'T!--SOMEONE MIGHT BE SCAMMING! ... I'd better warn my
>> users.
>>
>> mike
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That happens to me too--missing original posts. Has to be a Gerry
>> problem,
>>> not our email programs. That’s why I’m not a fan of trimming posts, some
>>> of these orphans make no sense, but if the thread appears you can sort it
>>> out.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Stuart
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: David McNeely [mailto:davmcneely40@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 6:46 PM
>>> To: Stuart MacMillan
>>> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: Re: removing gmail warning from vanagon messages?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I get the message for all Vanagon list emails. It seems that a relayed
>>> email will generate the message. Since I know the drill, I don't worry
>>> about it.
>>>
>>> What does bother me is that I never get some messages, until someone has
>>> replied. I get the reply, with the original if it was not removed by the
>>> person who replied. Also, gmail sorts the messages for me, I guess based
>>> on content, into its default categories. Some Vanagon list messages
>> arrive
>>> in my inbox, some in the forums folder, some in the updates folder, and
>>> there doesn't seem to be a reason for the assignment that makes sense to
>> me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You should be able to add "Vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com" (see below) as a
>>> "safe sender" in your Gmail settings to eliminate this message.
>>>
>>> Stuart
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Steven Johnson
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 5:22 PM
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: Re: removing gmail warning from vanagon messages?
>>>
>>> No, I get it too. Using gmail...
>>>
>>> Steven
>>> 91 Westy
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 7:52 PM, Karl Ploessl <karl.ploessl@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I see this "warning" all the time from different list member. Nothing
>>>> to worry about (I think).
>>>>
>>>> Karl
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Dragon List <dragon01list@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> i just started using gmail for my vanagon listserv messages.
>>>>>
>>>>> stuart's just came in with a warning "this message might not have
>>>>> been
>>>> sent
>>>>> by: stuart's gmail address. Learn More Report phishing
>>>>>
>>>>> now, clearly it's a fine email, but i'd like to rid myself of the
>>>> annoying
>>>>> message any time someone sending from a gmail account to gerry gets
>>>>> to my inbox. has anyone successfully done this? the "learn more"
>>>>> information doesn't have a listserv solution, that i can see.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks.
>>>>> bill
>>>>> felton, ca
>>>>> 87 syncro westy
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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