Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 15:23:42 -0400
Reply-To: Eric Wunrow <VW@ERICWUNROW.COM>
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From: Eric Wunrow <VW@ERICWUNROW.COM>
Subject: Re: gas smell solution progress
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I had the EXACT same thing happen.
I could smell fumes after a fill up, so had a tank reseal done and used evap tanks put in, but unfortunately not until a day after taking a drive-turned-deluge. The shop said one had a hole in it, and the other was cracked… but never showed me the cracked one...
When it still ran like poo, $1,900 later, the formerly-thought-to-be-reputable shop in Denver insisted my running issues were because we're full-timers and are overloaded… when I asked "Why does it idle poorly then?" they stuck to their "diagnosis…" Bastages like this are really hard on everyone in our group, I was so mad I pondered selling the bus!
Thought of writing you all about my running problems ever since the gas tank got flooded with water 16 months ago, but was bound to fix it myself.
I put a new set of the GoWesty proprietary injectors in, at the Mid-Ohio race track two weeks ago, and PROBLEM SOLVED!
Eric
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On Sep 26, 2016, at 7:47 PM, Ken <kdlewis@NORTHSTATE.NET> wrote:
> Eric and all,
>
> After a year-long battle with water getting in the gasoline, I would be happy to share, what I am fairly certain of, is the final solution.
> I stumbled upon a youtube video ; search "VW T3: 2.1L Runs Rough (Cracked EVAP Expansion Tank)" .This prodded me to investigate further. My tanks were not cracked but the round gasket on top of the EVAP Expansion Tank were split in two on both of them! The vent valve was just flopping around. This creates a funnel for the water, splashed up by the front wheels, to make it's way into the gas tank.
>
> I believe it would behoove anyone who has not had those EVAP tanks out, to do so. Likewise, if water can get in, fumes could escape.
> Good Luck ,
> Ken Lewis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Eric Caron
> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:09 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: gas smell solution progress
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> I only replaced the two very small hoses attached to the evaporation tank in the wheel wells. they can be reached without dropping the tank. I’m told the gasket in the evaporation tank itself can also need replacing but at the moment I am gas smell free.
>
> If I have any reason to drop the tank I’ll be after every gas line, and grommet I can find. There are more I could feel but I don’t think I can reach them without lowering the tank.
>
> Still this easy fix made a big difference for the moment.
>
> Eric Caron
> 85 GL Auto
>
>
>> On Sep 25, 2016, at 6:00 PM, Richard Golen <rgolen@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Eric,
>>
>> Quick question. Did you have to drop the tank to replace those vent hoses?
>>
>> Ric
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 23:15, Eric Caron <ecaron1@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> I’m not sure if I reported back on this gas smell problem. I did solve the problem for now. I replaced the four small hoses from the evaporation tanks in the wheel wells and no more gas smell. Of course also fixed the drip I found on the fuel filter hose.
>>>
>>> So no more smell after several fill ups and trips.
>>>
>>> I will be researching the best fuel hose and other hoses to replace for prevention. there is still a lot of cloth feeling hose on my van and I’m guessing that is pretty old and should probably be changed.
>>>
>>> the hose I used was a bit two small in diameter as it was very hard to get on.
>>>
>>> If anyone knows the exact internal diameter of the fule line used that would be a help.
>>>
>>> Eric Caron
>>> 85 GL Auto Westfalia
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 23, 2016, at 5:26 PM, Eric Caron <ecaron1@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>
>>>> My fingers are crossed that I have found the source of the strong gas smell I notice most often after fill up and most often by the front passenger wheel.
>>>>
>>>> After a recent fill up and short trip to a store I waited by the van. I sniffed around and then checked the hoses on the wheel well evaporation tank. I had tightened them a bit recently. I found one soaked with gas and the other damp on one end.
>>>>
>>>> So, I need to get the correct gas line and size and get these small sections replaced.
>>>>
>>>> The next time I checked them they seemed dry and I have not noticed them wet again.
>>>>
>>>> I don’t continue filling when pump turns off.
>>>>
>>>> Once the lines are replaced and I fill the van I’ll report back but my fingers are crossed that this solves the problem for now.
>>>>
>>>> Some list folks told me to replace these but they always seemed dry and intact when I checked. If I had listened I may have solved this problem some time ago!
>>>>
>>>> Eric Caron
>>>> 85 GL Auto Westfalia
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