Date:         Fri, 4 Nov 2016 16:21:09 -0300
Reply-To:     Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNET.NB.CA>
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From:         Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNET.NB.CA>
Subject:      Re: chains and strap chains
Comments: To: pcking <pc.king@COMCAST.NET>
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Nah … if the LT get stuck or a little wobbly on a job site … sometimes even if it’s been raining hard and your on a clay soil - you can easily roll a set of chains or cables on the drive wheels to get the extra bite you need.

> On 04-Nov-2016, at 13:01, pcking <pc.king@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
> 
> A box of chains is a wonderful thing. It allows you to run non studded tires
> and still drive home through the thick stuff.
> 
> But if you are just trying to unstick yourself it's a little late to be
> installing chains.
> 
> Strap chains, on the other hand are great at moving out of a sticky spot.
> Just don't drive any distance on them.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roy Nicholl" <RNicholl@NBNET.NB.CA>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 10:55 AM
> Subject: Re: 14" tires, report...
> 
> 
> All season tyres are not fit for *real* winter driving.  They are passable
> if you are going to puts around in the City once the streets have been
> cleared, but will be of little use on the already tractional challenged
> Vanagon if you are intent on driving in snow.
> 
> Several newer, non-studded winter tyres (i.e. Nokian) have rubber/material
> compounds which stick pretty good on ice and packed snow  - the tyres also
> clear well which is very important - without compromising handling on
> dry/wet roads.   Even here in Canada where it’s winter almost half the year,
> jurisdictions have banned / are banning studded tyres due to the damage they
> cause on road.
> 
> On the LT, and on the older VWs when they were snow driven, I use
> non-studded Nokians and keep a set of chains under the rear bench just
> in-case one does get stuck.
> 
> 
>> On 04-Nov-2016, at 11:44, Mark McCulley <markmcculley@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> 
>> If it were me I would go with a good set of non-studded winter tires. And
>> if I didn't expect to encounter a lot of winter weather, just wanted to be
>> prepared in case there was a snowstorm, then I'd go with all season tires
>> and some good chains. Studded tires are noisy, don't handle as well as
>> regular tires, and can only be used during certain months in most states.
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Does it make sense to install 4 studded m&s tires for the winter on my
>>> 2wd
>>> 88' Westy camper? Last winter I slid all over the place with fairly new
>>> RO8' tires on the Westy. There was only about 1/4 of wet snow on main
>>> street St. J Vermont. We are still planning our trip to Yorktown Va.
>>> After
>>> thanksgiving. I want to have a safe trip. Any thoughts!
>>> 
>>> Dennis J
>>> 
>>>