Date:         Tue, 22 Nov 2016 18:23:05 -0800
Reply-To:     Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
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From:         Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
Subject:      Re: Diesel Oil Pan Bolts and Washers (for gas inline engine)
Comments: To: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
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Hardly really matters when there is a rubber gasket between surfaces. Any particularities between the metals pale in significance with the great amount of squish in the rubber gasket

Alistair 

> On Nov 22, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> I think I used 15, but I don't really remember... I did regularize my
> pattern as I tightened... I may have even done the pan up half-torque and
> let that sit overnight, then torqued it tight... I do that when alloys and

> steel meet.... something I was taught...
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2016 3:32 PM, "Neil N" <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So the gas ABA 2.0 engine oil pan bolt spec is significantly higher
>> than Vanagon 1.6 NA diesel but I think both engines use aluminum front
>> and rear crank seal carriers; 2 or 3 oil pan bolts thread into each
>> carrier. Bentley manuals for oil pan bolt torque spec....
>> 
>> Vanagon diesel: 7 ft lbs
>> VW Fox 1.8 gas: 15 ft lbs.
>> Mk3 2.0 gas: 15 ft lbs. Getting close to that value felt really wrong
>> though the rubber gasket at windage tray compresses a bit.
>> 
>> http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=76249  for Mk4 TDI: 11 ft lbs
>> Haynes manual for the Mk2 gas engines show a spec for Allen head bolts
>> and a higher spec for cap type bolts.
>> 
>> I'm going to use 10 ft lbs for Allen head bolts.
>> 
>> Neil.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/17/16, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mine was single flat washers.  Be careful with the torque....
>> 
>> --
>> Neil n
>> 
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>> 
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>>