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Date:         Thu, 24 Nov 2016 17:16:42 -0800
Reply-To:     Toomey Douglas <drt@UOREGON.EDU>
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From:         Toomey Douglas <drt@UOREGON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Winter tires
Comments: To: Rolf Lockwood <rolf.lockwood@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <CAJpeATHxT4F4Z-406y32SVmgK8Rd8zNQrOHoYpSKPKG2cs8=Hg@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks for the answers. Will get 4 snow tires for the 15s and switch with the seasons. Now to get a good snow tire!

> On Nov 24, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Rolf Lockwood <rolf.lockwood@gmail.com> wrote: > > Please don't install just a pair of winter tires on your Westy, whatever > wheel size you choose. You're asking for trouble because you'll be out of > traction balance -- one end of the VW will get more grip than the other and > you'll be understeering like mad in some situations. Tires are meant to be > installed in fours, summer or winter, if you want the best performance in > emergency situations. And we buy tires with those situations in mind, or at > least we should. > > As for keeping a set of winters permanently mounted on wheels, I think > that's the smart move. The more often you mount and de-mount a tire, the > more you'll be asking for bead damage. > > Going back to the Vredestein thread, I run Comtrac all-weather tires (on > 16-inch steel wheels from Van Cafe) on my '90 Westy and like them just > fine. I don't run the VW on the worst of winter days so I can't comment on > how they perform in heavy snow or on icy surfaces, but they're good in > light snow. About a million times better than the all-season tires they > replaced. > > The 'all season' moniker is very nearly deserving of a fraud charge. > All-season if you're in Florida, maybe. But if the temperature dips below > about 7 C or 44 F, they're useless. And forget about traction in snow. > > Rolf in Toronto > > > > On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Toomey Douglas <drt@uoregon.edu> wrote: > >> I want to run a pair of winter tires on my 87 Westy. In Oregon studs or >> chains are often required to go over passes in winter; we carry cable >> chains. >> >> I recently upgraded to 16” wheels with Michelin Defenders, which were good >> for a summertime cross-country trip, but probably not for snow and ice. >> Many years ago I bought a pair of 15” wheels, which I still have (should >> have gone with 16s originally, but got bum advice on fit). >> >> Does it make sense to permanently mount winter tires on the 15” wheels? >> Or should I just stick with 16’s and switch tires for the seasons? >> >> Thanks! And Happy Thanksgiving to all. >

_______________________ Prof. Douglas Toomey 1272 Geological Sciences University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1272

http://uoregon.edu/~drt http://geophysics.uoregon.edu (541) 346 5576 (tel) (541) 346 4692 (fax) ________________________


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