Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 01:17:34 -0600
Reply-To: Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
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From: Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
Subject: Re: another chain question
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Fortunately down here in North Alabama we get some snow maybe every 3 years
or so, but it was nothing to not see clear pavement for 3 months back home
in Western NY State! With that kind of weather it does not take long to
figure out what works and what doesn't work.
My experience says chains on the rear drive wheels only because you want as
little rolling resistance from the front tires as possible and chains add
rolling resistance to your front tires. In deeper snow your sidewalls will
help steer but they have to roll to steer. If your front tires are sliding
you are likely on ice and chains won't matter. They do absolutely no good on
ice.
A great solution is studded snow tires on all 4 wheels because studs do help
on ice. They help drive and steer on ice.
An even better solution is to move far enough South so that you see snow
maybe every three years!!!!
Thanks, Tom Hargrave
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From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of
OlRivrRat
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 7:36 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: another chain question
With all that I have just stated, To be Fair & Honest, I have never
used Chains
on All4 ~ But on many occasions that I have felt the Need for Chains I have
wished
that I had them on All4 ~ If only just to reduce the PuckerFactor a bit ~
On 27 Nov , 2016, at 6:09 PM, David McNeely wrote:
> Well, yes, we all know that sliding is not good. So, your position is
that with rear only chains, the rear drive will push the front tires in a
sliding mode, rather than rolling. Therefore, one should install 4 chains,
not two. Several others have said otherwise, but I'm still learning.
>
> mcneely
>
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 4:17 PM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote:
> DavidM
>
> I'd like to think it Common Knowledge, in this day & age ,
> that there is
>
> Less Friction between a Tire & TheRoad when the Tire is Sliding as
> opposed to
>
> Rolling ~ But in case it is not C'K' let Me point out ~
>
> There is Less Friction between a Tire & TheRoad when the Tire is
> Sliding as
>
> opposed to when it is Rolling ~ Chains on the Front will help to keep
> the Tire
>
> Rolling & that together with the Direct Effect of the Chains Bite, in
> Very Slick
>
> conditions like Ice & Slush & can provide better You with Much Better
> Steering ~
>
> ORR ~ DeanB
>
>
> On 27 Nov , 2016, at 2:03 PM, David McNeely wrote:
>
> > My 1991 Volkswagen Vanagon GL Campmobile is the only rear wheel
> > drive vehicle I have had in a very long time. I have never used
> > chains on it, but I am taking a trip in it this winter and of course
> > want to be prepared. So, I bought a set of chains from Les Schwab.
> > They are branded "Quick-Fit." I will be practicing installing them this
afternoon.
> >
> > Back in the day, we used chains only on the rear. I have read some
> > recommendations that even with rear wheel drive, chains should be
> > installed on all four tires. Les Schwabb clerk told me rear wheel
> > only., but that in extreme conditions (where else would I use chains?)
perhaps all four.
> >
> > What does the list experience say about the camper? These small
> > link, diamond pattern chains with supposedly easy to install set up
> > are pretty expensive, and if the second pair is not needed unless
> > I'm trying to climb a real back country road in snow and ice (I'm
> > not going to do that), then I'd rather not buy the second set.
> >
> > mcneely
>
>
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