Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 08:20:36 -0800
Reply-To: David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
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From: David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: another chain question
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Thanks Roger, Just got a message from LaClede concerning retailers. Guess
what, Les Schwabb is included. Called the Les Schwabb dealer where I
bought the wrong size, different brand (sold to me as, "Oh yes, those fit
your tires, they don't list all the sizes they fit on the label." The
person I spoke with this morning said, regarding Alpine Premier size 1540,
fits 195R14, right on the label, "Sure, I have a set, right in front of me."
Go figure.
So, I'm on my way to the Les Schwabb store this morning.
Got our second snow of the season overnight, about 2.5", should melt off
mostly today, but more on the way later this week. I'll be going to
Seattle Friday, and of course hope I don't need the chains in the pass, but
glad to have them. Another thing I always carry in winter: wood ash.
Much better than sand.
mcneely
On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Tom Hargrave <thargrav@hiwaay.net> wrote:
> Fortunately down here in North Alabama we get some snow maybe every 3 years
> or so, but it was nothing to not see clear pavement for 3 months back home
> in Western NY State! With that kind of weather it does not take long to
> figure out what works and what doesn't work.
>
> My experience says chains on the rear drive wheels only because you want as
> little rolling resistance from the front tires as possible and chains add
> rolling resistance to your front tires. In deeper snow your sidewalls will
> help steer but they have to roll to steer. If your front tires are sliding
> you are likely on ice and chains won't matter. They do absolutely no good
> on
> ice.
>
> A great solution is studded snow tires on all 4 wheels because studs do
> help
> on ice. They help drive and steer on ice.
>
> An even better solution is to move far enough South so that you see snow
> maybe every three years!!!!
>
> Thanks, Tom Hargrave
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of
> OlRivrRat
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 7:36 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: another chain question
>
> With all that I have just stated, To be Fair & Honest, I have never
> used Chains
>
> on All4 ~ But on many occasions that I have felt the Need for Chains I have
> wished
>
> that I had them on All4 ~ If only just to reduce the PuckerFactor a bit ~
>
>
> On 27 Nov , 2016, at 6:09 PM, David McNeely wrote:
>
> > Well, yes, we all know that sliding is not good. So, your position is
> that with rear only chains, the rear drive will push the front tires in a
> sliding mode, rather than rolling. Therefore, one should install 4 chains,
> not two. Several others have said otherwise, but I'm still learning.
> >
> > mcneely
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 4:17 PM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> > DavidM
> >
> > I'd like to think it Common Knowledge, in this day & age ,
> > that there is
> >
> > Less Friction between a Tire & TheRoad when the Tire is Sliding as
> > opposed to
> >
> > Rolling ~ But in case it is not C'K' let Me point out ~
> >
> > There is Less Friction between a Tire & TheRoad when the Tire is
> > Sliding as
> >
> > opposed to when it is Rolling ~ Chains on the Front will help to keep
> > the Tire
> >
> > Rolling & that together with the Direct Effect of the Chains Bite, in
> > Very Slick
> >
> > conditions like Ice & Slush & can provide better You with Much Better
> > Steering ~
> >
> > ORR ~ DeanB
> >
> >
> > On 27 Nov , 2016, at 2:03 PM, David McNeely wrote:
> >
> > > My 1991 Volkswagen Vanagon GL Campmobile is the only rear wheel
> > > drive vehicle I have had in a very long time. I have never used
> > > chains on it, but I am taking a trip in it this winter and of course
> > > want to be prepared. So, I bought a set of chains from Les Schwab.
> > > They are branded "Quick-Fit." I will be practicing installing them
> this
> afternoon.
> > >
> > > Back in the day, we used chains only on the rear. I have read some
> > > recommendations that even with rear wheel drive, chains should be
> > > installed on all four tires. Les Schwabb clerk told me rear wheel
> > > only., but that in extreme conditions (where else would I use chains?)
> perhaps all four.
> > >
> > > What does the list experience say about the camper? These small
> > > link, diamond pattern chains with supposedly easy to install set up
> > > are pretty expensive, and if the second pair is not needed unless
> > > I'm trying to climb a real back country road in snow and ice (I'm
> > > not going to do that), then I'd rather not buy the second set.
> > >
> > > mcneely
> >
> >
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