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Date:   Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:18:46 -0400
Reply-To:   Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNET.NB.CA>
Sender:   Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:   Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNET.NB.CA>
Subject:   Re: Michelin Defender LTX M/S 205/65/15 or 16"
Comments:   To: Neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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Neil:

The LTXs were purchased in Jan 2015, but I do not recall if they used Evertread. However, like the X-Ice, I find them a little harder and less sticky than the Nokians - mostly noticeable when pulling away in slushy/icy conditions.

Most of the Nokian Hakkapeliitta family of tyres I’ve run over the years aren’t happy once the temperature climbs above 6-8C and I wouldn’t last long running all year round … I have a set of WR C3 on the LT right now .. simply because I needed new shoes in September and it was too early to mount Hakkas … I’ve now found a second set of rims, so I think I’ll take them off in April and run them again next winter.

The X-ice were more durable in the warm - though not the best performing - as I ran them into summer to wear them out so I could return to Nokians.

> On 29-Nov-2016, at 23:41, Neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > Hi Roy. What generation LXT? Did it use the Evertread compound? Regardless..... > > I agree. I'd think the Nokian winter tire is better for winter driving > than the Michelin LTX. But part of what I was looking for was a tire I > can use all year. Though I have not kept track of the mileage, > understandably, my current 14" Nokians "Cargo" winter tires wore out > relatively quickly in terms of miles. > > We don't see much snow, per se, here in Greater Vancouver and I > actively avoid driving my Vanagon in the snow. The WRG3 would > obviously have been a better choice in some ways but the tread > warranty is for less miles and finding a replacement Nokian locally is > too costly. (I noted Vancafes price though). I had WRG3 tires on my > Honda. They worked admirably! > > Neil. > > On 11/29/16, Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: >> Neil: >> >> We had a set of the LTXs on one of the trucks last winter. Everyone >> preferred my truck with the Nokian shoes. Similar experience a few winters >> ago when I put X-ice on my wife’s Jetta because I could not find a set of >> Hakkapeliitta or Nokian Rs due to Québec mandating winter tyres that year. >> In February, I ended up swapping the year old Hakka’s from my Jetta wagon >> onto the wife’s car and I spent the next 1.5 winters with the X-ice. >> >> The Michelin are good, but not quite on the same level as the Nokians. >> >>> On 29-Nov-2016, at 21:28, Neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >>> >>> So I did a little more research over on the samba. There are a handful >>> of users with this tire. Tirerack reviews are positive. I've ordered 5 >>> and hope to get them installed this Friday. >>> >>> Reasons for going with the Michelin LTX M/S 205-65-15 >>> >>> Treadwear 800 traction A Temperature A. This is quite good AFAIK. >>> 25.4" diameter (will fit between frame rails in spare tire area, >>> hopefully only minor mods required to use stock "clamshell") >>> Very close to the OEM tire diameter (I'd guess one could keep an OEM >>> 14" as spare) >>> Good overall ratings in wet, snow. >>> My current set of unused tire "chains" should fit >>> 6 Years / 70,000 Miles Treadlife warranty >>> possibly offers better braking (more rubber to pavement) than an AT type >>> tire. >>> I don't really need an all terrain tire. >>> I can run these all year. >>> Reasonably affordable >>> I can find these fairly easily in Canada or US >>> Tread pattern looks very similar to the well touted long discontinued >>> Michelin LTX from the olden days of Vanagons. >>> M/S rating meets local (BC) government mandated winter tire requirements >>> >>> Just my .02 CND >>> >>> Neil. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11/29/16, Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hi all. >>>> >>>> I see comments in the archives regarding Michelin Defender tires here: >>>> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/h4r3om6 >>>> >>>> but in part, they may be regarding incorrect load rated Michelin >>>> Defenders. I'm curious of this tire: (Discount Tire link): >>>> http://tinyurl.com/h67w69q >>>> >>>> User input on the Michelin Defender LTX M/S 205/65R15 or 16" tire >>>> would be most welcome. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Neil. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Neil n >>>> >>>> Blog: Vanagons, Westfalia, general <http://tubaneil.blogspot.ca> >>>> >>>> 1988 Westy Images <https://picasaweb.google.com/musomuso/New1988Westy> >>>> >>>> 1981 Westfalia "Jaco" Images, technical >>>> <http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/> >>>> >>>> Vanagon-Bus VAG Gas Engine Swap Group <http://tinyurl.com/khalbay> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Neil n >>> >>> Blog: Vanagons, Westfalia, general <http://tubaneil.blogspot.ca> >>> >>> 1988 Westy Images <https://picasaweb.google.com/musomuso/New1988Westy> >>> >>> 1981 Westfalia "Jaco" Images, technical >>> <http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/> >>> >>> Vanagon-Bus VAG Gas Engine Swap Group <http://tinyurl.com/khalbay> >> >> > > > -- > Neil n > > Blog: Vanagons, Westfalia, general <http://tubaneil.blogspot.ca> > > 1988 Westy Images <https://picasaweb.google.com/musomuso/New1988Westy> > > 1981 Westfalia "Jaco" Images, technical <http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/> > > Vanagon-Bus VAG Gas Engine Swap Group <http://tinyurl.com/khalbay>


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