Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:18:46 -0400
Reply-To: Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNET.NB.CA>
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From: Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNET.NB.CA>
Subject: Re: Michelin Defender LTX M/S 205/65/15 or 16"
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Neil:
The LTXs were purchased in Jan 2015, but I do not recall if they used Evertread. However, like the X-Ice, I find them a little harder and less sticky than the Nokians - mostly noticeable when pulling away in slushy/icy conditions.
Most of the Nokian Hakkapeliitta family of tyres I’ve run over the years aren’t happy once the temperature climbs above 6-8C and I wouldn’t last long running all year round … I have a set of WR C3 on the LT right now .. simply because I needed new shoes in September and it was too early to mount Hakkas … I’ve now found a second set of rims, so I think I’ll take them off in April and run them again next winter.
The X-ice were more durable in the warm - though not the best performing - as I ran them into summer to wear them out so I could return to Nokians.
> On 29-Nov-2016, at 23:41, Neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> Hi Roy. What generation LXT? Did it use the Evertread compound? Regardless.....
>
> I agree. I'd think the Nokian winter tire is better for winter driving
> than the Michelin LTX. But part of what I was looking for was a tire I
> can use all year. Though I have not kept track of the mileage,
> understandably, my current 14" Nokians "Cargo" winter tires wore out
> relatively quickly in terms of miles.
>
> We don't see much snow, per se, here in Greater Vancouver and I
> actively avoid driving my Vanagon in the snow. The WRG3 would
> obviously have been a better choice in some ways but the tread
> warranty is for less miles and finding a replacement Nokian locally is
> too costly. (I noted Vancafes price though). I had WRG3 tires on my
> Honda. They worked admirably!
>
> Neil.
>
> On 11/29/16, Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>> Neil:
>>
>> We had a set of the LTXs on one of the trucks last winter. Everyone
>> preferred my truck with the Nokian shoes. Similar experience a few winters
>> ago when I put X-ice on my wife’s Jetta because I could not find a set of
>> Hakkapeliitta or Nokian Rs due to Québec mandating winter tyres that year.
>> In February, I ended up swapping the year old Hakka’s from my Jetta wagon
>> onto the wife’s car and I spent the next 1.5 winters with the X-ice.
>>
>> The Michelin are good, but not quite on the same level as the Nokians.
>>
>>> On 29-Nov-2016, at 21:28, Neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>
>>> So I did a little more research over on the samba. There are a handful
>>> of users with this tire. Tirerack reviews are positive. I've ordered 5
>>> and hope to get them installed this Friday.
>>>
>>> Reasons for going with the Michelin LTX M/S 205-65-15
>>>
>>> Treadwear 800 traction A Temperature A. This is quite good AFAIK.
>>> 25.4" diameter (will fit between frame rails in spare tire area,
>>> hopefully only minor mods required to use stock "clamshell")
>>> Very close to the OEM tire diameter (I'd guess one could keep an OEM
>>> 14" as spare)
>>> Good overall ratings in wet, snow.
>>> My current set of unused tire "chains" should fit
>>> 6 Years / 70,000 Miles Treadlife warranty
>>> possibly offers better braking (more rubber to pavement) than an AT type
>>> tire.
>>> I don't really need an all terrain tire.
>>> I can run these all year.
>>> Reasonably affordable
>>> I can find these fairly easily in Canada or US
>>> Tread pattern looks very similar to the well touted long discontinued
>>> Michelin LTX from the olden days of Vanagons.
>>> M/S rating meets local (BC) government mandated winter tire requirements
>>>
>>> Just my .02 CND
>>>
>>> Neil.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/29/16, Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi all.
>>>>
>>>> I see comments in the archives regarding Michelin Defender tires here:
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/h4r3om6
>>>>
>>>> but in part, they may be regarding incorrect load rated Michelin
>>>> Defenders. I'm curious of this tire: (Discount Tire link):
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/h67w69q
>>>>
>>>> User input on the Michelin Defender LTX M/S 205/65R15 or 16" tire
>>>> would be most welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Neil.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>
>
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>
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