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Date:         Mon, 28 Nov 2016 21:10:44 -0800
Reply-To:     David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Chains, traction... Vredisteins
Comments: To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
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Dennis, makes sense. So, spare set for right, rotate right three front to rear, moving right rear to spare, spare to right front . Rotate left two front to rear, rear to front. I can do that, if I remember it! After maybe four swaps, remount tires and switch sides. Hmmm..... . Would that last be cost effective? Save more on tire wear than the cost of remounting?

Thanks, mcneely

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:

> When dealing with directional tires and a set of five I usually set the > spare for the right side. Ten for rotations I rotate the 3 on the right and > only 2 on the left. For some reason the right front typically gets the most > wear and this helps offset that after a number of rotations it may be > beneficial to remount two of the tires to switch sides. For many Vanagon > owners (5 to 7K miles/year), tires seem to get replaced on years or due to > damage before they really wear out. > > Dennis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf > Of David McNeely > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 6:28 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Chains, traction... Vredisteins > > Where on the sidewall is the directional arrow? I've just looked mine > over, and didn't find it. That doesn't mean it isn't there, of course, it > just means I didn't find it. Can you point me to the right direction ;-) > ? Sure would appreciate it. I've also reread the description on the > Vredestein site and a couple of others with no mention of the tire being > directional. That doesn't mean it isn't, either, of course. > > So, I bought five tires, specifically to have a like spare and to use a > five tire rotation pattern. With directional tires, that won't work, of > course. The dealer didn't point that out to me, so maybe that is a > failing, such as Don mentioned that dealer is capable of. > > mcneely > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > David, > > My new Vredesteins 195 r 14c) all weather tires are directional. There > > is a directional arrow printed on the sidewalk. > > Laters, > > Dennis J > > > > Dennis Jowell > > Scotch Hollow Farm > > Newbury, Vermont > > > > > > > On Nov 28, 2016, at 5:42 PM, David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM> > > wrote: > > > > > > Don, when you say they mounted the tires backwards, please help me > > > to understand. They are not described as directional tires, unless > > > I failed to read correctly. But I will check mine. How would I > > > know they were mounted backwards? You have had poor experience with > > > Les Schwabb, can > > you > > > be specific as to what they did wrong? I tried other vendors, they > > > were the only local one who would order the Vredesteins for me. I > > > do not like to buy tires from internet vendors. The price I paid > > > was the best price > > I > > > found, internet vendors included. At least there is someone I can > > > go to > > if > > > the tires fail, rather than having to deal with a distant vendor. > > > > > > Glad you had good luck with the Comtrac tire on winter conditions. > > > I > > will > > > be driving from Spokane to Thousand Oaks, CA (and then to some > > > outback locations in S California after Christmas) next month. > > > Right now I plan > > to > > > go from Spokane to either Portland or Seattle depending on weather, > > > and then S on I-5, to avoid mountain driving as much as possible. I > > > know, > > long > > > way around, but may be safer. Since you spend a lot of the winter > > > down there, perhaps you can give me some pointers about free camping > > > and pleasant environs. We just want to enjoy the out and about > > > while down there. > > > > > > mcneely > > > > > >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Just tested those Vredisteins (com Trac all season 195 r 14c) on a > > >> drive through Nevada, Oregon and California. Nasty conditions on > > >> hwy 95 near Goldfield, NV saw cars, RVs and a semi or two stuck on > > >> both sides of the highway.... I managed to thread my way through, > > >> I'm sure on Momentum alone. And the folks who mounted these tires > > >> for me put em on > > backwards. > > >> I give these tires a thumbs up...Very stable on ice in 60mph cross > > winds, > > >> which I encountered for 50 miles....That being said...drive > > >> traction in > > a > > >> 2wd Vanagon still sucks! You lose momentum, you're done.... > > >> Les Schwab:. They have an outstanding "presentation" making their > > >> workers jog everywhere. ..looks impressive, but that is show > > only....they > > >> aren't good. Tires they sell fail..they make lots of > > >> mistakes....we > > gave > > >> up on Les Schwab.... > > >> > > >


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