Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 04:11:54 -0500
Reply-To: David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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From: David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject: Re: Mechanical/Brakes/1984 Westy
In-Reply-To: <B3921FCB-46F7-4DD5-A142-830D83281B03@ERICWUNROW.COM>
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Eric, fyi Mark Drillock is not MarkWard on thesamba (who you have
apparently met in person at a race and gotten along well with, so I'm a bit
surprised at your dismissing him so abruptly). What he is is someone who
has been a resource for Vanagon people, especially on electrical matters;
and a highly-respected member of the Vanagon LIst, for many years -- and
has never in my experience had a hard word for anybody. You might want to
mend your fences there.
Terry Kay, who as you've found out can indeed be very helpful -- is also
one of the roughly four people in my awareness who have been kicked off the
Vanagon List in the last 20 years for flagrant assholery of one sort or
another. Several years ago when Ben Tan and I became co-moderators of the
list (I'm no longer actively co-moderating, and this is in no way a
moderator message) we considered whether to invite those people back, and
did in fact invite two of them. One rejoined on the condition that he keep
his opinions as an unreconstructed WWII Nazi to himself, and he made an
honest effort but was unable to do so and had to be dismissed again. Terry
we decided was too much trouble to invite back. He was nice as pie in your
samba thread, but if you look around you'll find he's famous for bad
behavior there as well. This may have colored Mark D's response a touch,
as there are few old-timers around who have not had a run-in with TK at
some time.
I have no trouble with your defending Terry and I do so myself from time to
time; but it has to come with an awareness that he is a barrel of powder
with a lit fuse who seriously pisses a lot of people off and has done so
over many years.
Yours,
David
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Eric Wunrow <VW@ericwunrow.com> wrote:
> The overriding opinion on several fronts, even beyond here, was master
> cylinder-related, and several other potential issues others supported.
>
>
> Terry busted his butt trying to help us, we shared many posts, emails,
> texts, and phone calls.
>
> I'm sure not going to apologize for thanking someone that was really there
> for me from Day 1.
>
>
> I've replied to Mark's post on the Samba… or, is that you and you're
> blowing your own horn? There was zero reference in that post to make anyone
> think "wrong style bearings…" so I think my reply there is fitting.
>
>
> My appreciation for each and every reply I've gotten from everyone has
> been stated, as I really am very thankful for everyone's help!
>
> This is the only note I could have done without… please just avoid my
> posts from here on out.
>
> Eric
> Eric Wunrow Pictures
> 303. 988. 8717
>
> VW@EricWunrow.com (for this list's emails)
> EW@EricWunrow.com (for private messages)
>
>
>
> On Dec 1, 2016, at 11:55 AM, vw_van_fan_Mark <madvws@COX.NET> wrote:
>
> > The official VW Parts says the spindle diameter changed in 84 model year
> production at chassis number E - 023827 so most 84 would have the later
> bearing. Only pretty early 84 model year vans would have the old bearing.
> The factory built roughly 150,000 T3 vehicles most years.
> >
> > Not sure why you gave much credit to TK since Mark Ward blamed the
> bearings right away. Meanwhile TK had you replacing the master cylinder,
> looking for bad hoses, bad bleeders, and said several times that the
> bearing were likely not the cause.
> >
> > Yes, VanCafe rocks, as usual!
> >
> > Mark D
> >
> >
> > Eric Wunrow wrote:
> >> THANK YOU everyone for your help!!!
> >>
> >> The problem is fixed, and as I "just knew," yes my brake issue was
> related to putting in front bearings.
> >>
> >> As I kept saying ad nauseum, coincidences are rare in the mechanical
> world…
> >>
> >>
> >> Here's the short version…
> >> All Vanagons prior to later 1984 ending with 150001 as their chassis
> number (findable on the rearward side of the frame wall under the bus and
> below the passenger seat), which should match the VIN if not chopped, had a
> smaller front spindle diameter.
> >>
> >> In our case, the mechanic used the later-version bearings on our
> early-1984 bus, meaning there was a huge amount of slop in the front
> bearings that enabled rotor-centering inconsistencies under braking. Hence,
> pedal went to floor, then fine, then somewhere in between...
> >>
> >>
> >> Sans repeating the entire saga, and hopefully without irritating our
> lovely hosts here, here's all the details:
> >> http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=667705&
> postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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