Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 21:01:21 -0500
Reply-To: David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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From: David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject: Re: Mechanical/Brakes/1984 Westy
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Well said, I agree. And I had an Uncle Elmer too, we called him Uncle
Chocolate-covered Cherry. He drove a truck, as a matter of fact.
Yrs,
d
On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> I just read the entire Samba thread on the subject and think every
> poster--yes, even TK, whose unique style shone through
> nonetheless--conducted himself admirably. I was recently involved in a
> troubleshooting thread on a different forum and the clash over "...it's not
> possible..." might have brought the contributors to blows if they'd been in
> the same room.
>
> The thing about problems like this is that it's hard to stay on track
> and not be driven crazy, even without off the wall suggestions by the
> onlookers. My uncle Elmer, no matter what the problem, always suggested
> checking the tire pressure. But he was a professional trucker with an
> entire shop at his disposal, so had nothing to lose by spitballing. Glad
> you got it fixed.
>
> Stephen
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 4:40 AM, David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
> wrote:
>
>
> "There was zero reference in that post to make anyone think "wrong style
> bearings…" so I think my reply there is fitting."
>
> There are really only two reasons that could lead to bad clearances in a
> tapered roller bearing -- wrong size bearing or damaged shaft. MarkWard
> pointed you directly to the trouble, and certainly deserves credit for his
> clear thinking. It is difficult to understand how any mechanic could
> install a bearing half that was an eighth of an inch too large for the
> shaft, but checking the clearances as MarkWard said would have instantly
> found it .
>
> Yrs,
> d
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Eric Wunrow <VW@ericwunrow.com> wrote:
>
> > The overriding opinion on several fronts, even beyond here, was master
> > cylinder-related, and several other potential issues others supported.
> >
> >
> > Terry busted his butt trying to help us, we shared many posts, emails,
> > texts, and phone calls.
> >
> > I'm sure not going to apologize for thanking someone that was really
> there
> > for me from Day 1.
> >
> >
> > I've replied to Mark's post on the Samba… or, is that you and you're
> > blowing your own horn? There was zero reference in that post to make
> anyone
> > think "wrong style bearings…" so I think my reply there is fitting.
> >
> >
> > My appreciation for each and every reply I've gotten from everyone has
> > been stated, as I really am very thankful for everyone's help!
> >
> > This is the only note I could have done without… please just avoid my
> > posts from here on out.
> >
> > Eric
> > Eric Wunrow Pictures
> > 303. 988. 8717 <(303)%20988-8717>
> >
> > VW@EricWunrow.com (for this list's emails)
> > EW@EricWunrow.com (for private messages)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 1, 2016, at 11:55 AM, vw_van_fan_Mark <madvws@COX.NET> wrote:
> >
> > > The official VW Parts says the spindle diameter changed in 84 model
> year
> > production at chassis number E - 023827 so most 84 would have the later
> > bearing. Only pretty early 84 model year vans would have the old bearing.
> > The factory built roughly 150,000 T3 vehicles most years.
> > >
> > > Not sure why you gave much credit to TK since Mark Ward blamed the
> > bearings right away. Meanwhile TK had you replacing the master cylinder,
> > looking for bad hoses, bad bleeders, and said several times that the
> > bearing were likely not the cause.
> > >
> > > Yes, VanCafe rocks, as usual!
> > >
> > > Mark D
> > >
> > >
> > > Eric Wunrow wrote:
> > >> THANK YOU everyone for your help!!!
> > >>
> > >> The problem is fixed, and as I "just knew," yes my brake issue was
> > related to putting in front bearings.
> > >>
> > >> As I kept saying ad nauseum, coincidences are rare in the mechanical
> > world…
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Here's the short version…
> > >> All Vanagons prior to later 1984 ending with 150001 as their chassis
> > number (findable on the rearward side of the frame wall under the bus and
> > below the passenger seat), which should match the VIN if not chopped,
> had a
> > smaller front spindle diameter.
> > >>
> > >> In our case, the mechanic used the later-version bearings on our
> > early-1984 bus, meaning there was a huge amount of slop in the front
> > bearings that enabled rotor-centering inconsistencies under braking.
> Hence,
> > pedal went to floor, then fine, then somewhere in between...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Sans repeating the entire saga, and hopefully without irritating our
> > lovely hosts here, here's all the details:
> > >> http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=667705&
> > postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
>
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