Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 23:41:29 -0500
Reply-To: Eric Wunrow <VW@ERICWUNROW.COM>
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From: Eric Wunrow <VW@ERICWUNROW.COM>
Subject: Re: Mechanical/Brakes/1984 Westy
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Correct.
Thanks,
Eric
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On Dec 6, 2016, at 4:25 AM, David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote:
> "There was zero reference in that post to make anyone think "wrong style
> bearings…" so I think my reply there is fitting."
>
> There are really only two reasons that could lead to bad clearances in a
> tapered roller bearing -- wrong size bearing or damaged shaft. MarkWard
> pointed you directly to the trouble, and certainly deserves credit for his
> clear thinking. It is difficult to understand how any mechanic could
> install a bearing half that was an eighth of an inch too large for the
> shaft, but checking the clearances as MarkWard said would have instantly
> found it .
>
> Yrs,
> d
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Eric Wunrow <VW@ericwunrow.com> wrote:
>
>> The overriding opinion on several fronts, even beyond here, was master
>> cylinder-related, and several other potential issues others supported.
>>
>>
>> Terry busted his butt trying to help us, we shared many posts, emails,
>> texts, and phone calls.
>>
>> I'm sure not going to apologize for thanking someone that was really there
>> for me from Day 1.
>>
>>
>> I've replied to Mark's post on the Samba… or, is that you and you're
>> blowing your own horn? There was zero reference in that post to make anyone
>> think "wrong style bearings…" so I think my reply there is fitting.
>>
>>
>> My appreciation for each and every reply I've gotten from everyone has
>> been stated, as I really am very thankful for everyone's help!
>>
>> This is the only note I could have done without… please just avoid my
>> posts from here on out.
>>
>> Eric
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>>
>>
>> On Dec 1, 2016, at 11:55 AM, vw_van_fan_Mark <madvws@COX.NET> wrote:
>>
>>> The official VW Parts says the spindle diameter changed in 84 model year
>> production at chassis number E - 023827 so most 84 would have the later
>> bearing. Only pretty early 84 model year vans would have the old bearing.
>> The factory built roughly 150,000 T3 vehicles most years.
>>>
>>> Not sure why you gave much credit to TK since Mark Ward blamed the
>> bearings right away. Meanwhile TK had you replacing the master cylinder,
>> looking for bad hoses, bad bleeders, and said several times that the
>> bearing were likely not the cause.
>>>
>>> Yes, VanCafe rocks, as usual!
>>>
>>> Mark D
>>>
>>>
>>> Eric Wunrow wrote:
>>>> THANK YOU everyone for your help!!!
>>>>
>>>> The problem is fixed, and as I "just knew," yes my brake issue was
>> related to putting in front bearings.
>>>>
>>>> As I kept saying ad nauseum, coincidences are rare in the mechanical
>> world…
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here's the short version…
>>>> All Vanagons prior to later 1984 ending with 150001 as their chassis
>> number (findable on the rearward side of the frame wall under the bus and
>> below the passenger seat), which should match the VIN if not chopped, had a
>> smaller front spindle diameter.
>>>>
>>>> In our case, the mechanic used the later-version bearings on our
>> early-1984 bus, meaning there was a huge amount of slop in the front
>> bearings that enabled rotor-centering inconsistencies under braking. Hence,
>> pedal went to floor, then fine, then somewhere in between...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sans repeating the entire saga, and hopefully without irritating our
>> lovely hosts here, here's all the details:
>>>> http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=667705&
>> postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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