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Date:         Tue, 27 Dec 2016 14:37:20 -0500
Reply-To:     Jason <uberhare@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Jason <uberhare@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: 094 5 Speed Kit
Comments: To: vw_van_fan_Mark <madvws@cox.net>
In-Reply-To:  <b7b9aca7-43cd-568b-0e78-c08d5ed3b136@cox.net>
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I was looking at using the following gear set:

4.13 final 4.11 1st 2.33 2nd 1.48 3rd 1.02 4th 0.70 5th

This would make 1st a regular gear - which I have no issue modifying the lockout. The shift pattern would be the same as my LT, which works well. The drop from 3-4 and 4-5 is about the same with this choice (1250 rpm). In fact the factory diesel 5 speed (DX) uses the same gear set with a 0.765 5th. I'll be using a 2.0TDI with around 300 ft-lbs torque, so it should handle the .70 without issue. Cruise at 70mph would be 2600 RPM with my current tires.

There are a few threads on thesamba where people mention the Weddle kit, but no one has posted anything first hand. I suspect GoWesty is using the Weddle gears to build their 094 5 speeds ( http://www.gowesty.com/product-details.php?id=4332). The 091/1 is essentially the same box as 094, making it easy to convert with the new gear set and end cap. Add the diesel 50 degree bell housing, and I'd be good to go! (Albeit a few thousand lighter in the wallet...) By the time I re-gear the 4 speed with a new R&P and 4th, I might as well do the 5 speed I think.

Jason Uberbus

On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 1:58 PM, vw_van_fan_Mark <madvws@cox.net> wrote:

> If you expect to use 1st a lot then you may want to remove the need to > push down to clear the lockout. If you go with the 4.13 then more 1st > use is probably where you will be. > > Don has the odd early diesel 5 speed gearing, with his 5th about the > same as an ordinary 4spd wbx 4th gear. His 1st is much lower than the > wbx 1st so he seldom needs it and uses 2nd instead. That early 5 speed > was meant for the 48hp early 1.6 diesel engine. > > Your proposal to combine the tallest 5th option with the tallest r&p > option means you should expect to have to drop down a gear more often so > you may want to move 4th taller as well so the jump isn't so great > between 4th and 5th. > > Mark > > Jason wrote: > >> This page shows the available ratios: >> https://weddleindustries.com/products/new-products/new-vw-094-5-speed-kit >> >> Looks like a viable option. I've read it moves 1st down past the lockout >> though. I'd have to modify my shifter since that would drive me nuts. >> >> Jason >> >> >>> On Dec 26, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Jason <uberhare@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >>>> >>>> I am looking to build a 5 speed for a TDI conversion. Does anyone have >>>> experience with the Weddle 094 5 speed kit? 4.13 final with 0.70 5th >>>> >>> would >>> >>>> be nice! Since I have to regear a transmission anyways, this may be a >>>> >>> good >>> >>>> route: >>>> >>>> https://weddleindustries.com/products/1000157/1005442 >>>> >>>> Jason >>>> Uberbus >>>> >>> >>> >>


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