Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 10:26:18 -0600
Reply-To: Ralph Meyermann <ralphmeyermann@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Ralph Meyermann <ralphmeyermann@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: 094 5 Speed Kit Diesel Conversions
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I have my AAZ turbo diesel, 5.43 with .77 4th 215/75/15 bfg's. She hums
smoothly at 60/ roughly 3k rpm. Thinking of an ahu MTDI for a touch more
power and cooler temps. I prefer 2 lane hwy and pulling a 1650 Lund fishing
boat
On Jan 3, 2017 10:19 AM, "Dennis Haynes" <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
> My experience with the VW Diesels including the TDI is limited but I have
> seen them. Here in New York we follow the CARB and conversions of any type
> are restricted. We are not allowed any of the VW Diesel products from 2002
> through 2006. We just don't see many Diesels here.
>
> As for your gearing choice I think you are going a bit too tall. The 300ft
> lbs is a high state of tune and that peak is around 2,400 rpm from what
> I've seen. As such I think you want to get near that torque peak just above
> 55-60 mph where wind resistance starts becoming the load. I would also
> re-think that state of tune. While it works short term for hatchbacks and
> sedans keeping that engine under sustained load/turbo boost is not good for
> long engine life or emissions. Also there is nothing in that transmission
> that will take that torque for any period of time. I would suggest the 4.57
> R/P with the ratios you already selected.
>
> Dennis
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of Jason
> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 2:37 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: 094 5 Speed Kit
>
> I was looking at using the following gear set:
>
> 4.13 final
> 4.11 1st
> 2.33 2nd
> 1.48 3rd
> 1.02 4th
> 0.70 5th
>
> This would make 1st a regular gear - which I have no issue modifying the
> lockout. The shift pattern would be the same as my LT, which works well.
> The drop from 3-4 and 4-5 is about the same with this choice (1250 rpm).
> In fact the factory diesel 5 speed (DX) uses the same gear set with a
> 0.765 5th. I'll be using a 2.0TDI with around 300 ft-lbs torque, so it
> should
> handle the .70 without issue. Cruise at 70mph would be 2600 RPM with my
> current tires.
>
> There are a few threads on thesamba where people mention the Weddle kit,
> but no one has posted anything first hand. I suspect GoWesty is using the
> Weddle gears to build their 094 5 speeds (
> http://www.gowesty.com/product-details.php?id=4332). The 091/1 is
> essentially the same box as 094, making it easy to convert with the new
> gear set and end cap. Add the diesel 50 degree bell housing, and I'd be
> good to go! (Albeit a few thousand lighter in the wallet...) By the time
> I re-gear the 4 speed with a new R&P and 4th, I might as well do the 5
> speed I think.
>
> Jason
> Uberbus
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 1:58 PM, vw_van_fan_Mark <madvws@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > If you expect to use 1st a lot then you may want to remove the need to
> > push down to clear the lockout. If you go with the 4.13 then more 1st
> > use is probably where you will be.
> >
> > Don has the odd early diesel 5 speed gearing, with his 5th about the
> > same as an ordinary 4spd wbx 4th gear. His 1st is much lower than the
> > wbx 1st so he seldom needs it and uses 2nd instead. That early 5 speed
> > was meant for the 48hp early 1.6 diesel engine.
> >
> > Your proposal to combine the tallest 5th option with the tallest r&p
> > option means you should expect to have to drop down a gear more often
> > so you may want to move 4th taller as well so the jump isn't so great
> > between 4th and 5th.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > Jason wrote:
> >
> >> This page shows the available ratios:
> >> https://weddleindustries.com/products/new-products/new-vw-094-5-speed
> >> -kit
> >>
> >> Looks like a viable option. I've read it moves 1st down past the
> >> lockout though. I'd have to modify my shifter since that would drive
> me nuts.
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Dec 26, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Jason <uberhare@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I am looking to build a 5 speed for a TDI conversion. Does anyone
> have
> >>>> experience with the Weddle 094 5 speed kit? 4.13 final with 0.70
> >>>> 5th
> >>>>
> >>> would
> >>>
> >>>> be nice! Since I have to regear a transmission anyways, this may
> >>>> be a
> >>>>
> >>> good
> >>>
> >>>> route:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://weddleindustries.com/products/1000157/1005442
> >>>>
> >>>> Jason
> >>>> Uberbus
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
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