Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:00:52 -0700
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From: OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Gas tank hard to fill, another issue
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Not familiar with those Cali' Nozzles but We hear in NM also have a RubberBellows
on the Nozzle & I've never had it be a problem, although it does feel a bit tenuous when
it's being inserted ~
ORR ~ DeanB
On 13 Jan , 2017, at 10:23 AM, Don Hanson wrote:
> I am currently in California, where the gas nozzles have these
> spring-loaded bellows surrounding the actual metal nozzle..In other Western
> states these aren't usually encountered (by me). My 84, when the tank is
> full, has forever "burped" and "drooled" a tiny bit of gas down it's body
> as the auto-shutoff works.. Not much and my Vanagon is asuan
> brown😕.....But here in California, it often spits the whole bloody hose
> forcefully out.. right onto the ground. Often the hose ejects itself
> randomly, without warning, too...
> You California Vanagon peeps, how do you deal with THIS "safety"
> feature? One day the ejected nozzle may cause a spark as it hits the
> ground.... I'd hate that..👻
>
> On Jan 13, 2017 8:42 AM, "Stuart MacMillan" <stuartmacm@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It's been my experience that as the tank gets fuller, you do need to slow
> down the fill rate or the pump will shut off. Surging out can also happen.
> The air in the tank is vented through the fill neck when filling and is now
> usually sucked up by a vapor control system built into the pump nozzle. I
> think the "camel hump" design of these tanks causes surging if you fill too
> fast. The pump's auto shut off sends puffs of air down the fill pipe and
> measures the time it takes the puffs to bounce back off the surface of the
> fuel. When it rises or sloshes up the pipe it will shut off the pump, but
> often not fast enough or too soon.
>
> It's not your charcoal canister, if that was plugged your tank would
> collapse as the fuel was drawn down. You probably had enough air leaks
> before you resealed the tank to minimize surging.
>
> Stuart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Gordon
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 7:41 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Gas tank hard to fill
>
> I've been having a harder time filling my 89 Westy's gas tank more and more.
> Something is blocking or causing back pressure such that the gas station
> nozzle is made to stop. I am forced to slowly feed the tank an ounce at a
> time and it takes forever with much spill over. I've tried several stations
> and it isn't them, I'm afraid.
>
> I've heard of some filter? Or charcoal? In the way there? Anyone know what
> part may be the culprit?
>
> Thanks,
> - g=
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