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Date:         Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:08:58 +0000
Reply-To:     David <fjazzbass@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         David <fjazzbass@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: VW says it (yawn) again...the bus
Comments: To: Bruce Todd <beeceetee@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <CAK9Aa+=bGWEb3WiXOP2z244GGHYfnFdM4HmH9dDwMznNOwpH3g@mail.gmail.com>
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Good point...

A recent incident was with a friend of mine needing an evaporator replaced in a hybrid vehicle. Their normal AC guy wouldn't touch it and referred them to someone else because of the inherent dangers and untrained techs...

Did a quick google search and low and behold- seems if you or someone else uses the wrong oil in a system using the newer electric compressors it could create a shock hazard- electrifying the case of the compressor.

That and the normal run of the mill "stop leak" are unusable in these systems because they require a new or different kind of oil.

I'm sure as we progress forward and these systems become more common we will see products supporting that and mechanics trained and willing to work on them- I'm more concerned about the used car market- or working on someone else's car, blah blah...

As we drive and work on our aged vehicles that can't keep up on the highway, I'm still blessed to be able to hold it together with rubber bands, glue- i.e. A screwdriver and monkey wrench....and honestly I don't even want to keep up.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 10:57 PM Bruce Todd <beeceetee@gmail.com> wrote:

> I would rather have the new concept van fix itself than drive itself. > > > > BT > > > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 8:45 AM, Neil2 <vidublu@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > No reason, Roger, to apologize as I understand the list rules. Is there? > > > > > > As I see it, the older I get the more license I have to make judgements > in > > > this realm. A young person just doesn't have the perspective to speak > > > authoritatively on things old. > > > > > > Besides, the more I shake my head at the German cost saving (?) measures > in > > > my brick the less I'm apt to let ANY Westy drive itself for me. > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear we're bringing back The Beatles we promise as soon as The David > > > Bowie > > > > reunion tour completes with special guest Long John Baldry - > > > > > > > > The return promise of a van so simple that anyone with four or five > > > > wrenches and a screwdriver or two could work on it - is long past - > > > > The vanagon or the safari 20+ window which could never compete on > > > today's > > > > roads is long gone and the new beetle or a new van is not the old van > -- > > > > westfalia is no more with Electrolux bringing alliances into the > > > winnigago > > > > furnished interior - (imitation of D. Trump) #NOTTHESAME Bad really > bad-- > > > > anyway I digress - > > > > Putting a badge on a vehicle and placing the smile lines under the nose > > > > like graphics will not make the electric VW a bus - > > > > The several real loaf or bricks I have had blessing my life could have > > > the > > > > entire wetfalia package removed in a few minutes to make a 1 ton cargo > > > van > > > > - once product delivered replace westfalia interior and go camping in > > > > places most people did not even know existed - and those who did know > > > > marvelled at your appearance with - a two wheel drive van in 4 x4 > > > coontry > > > > Amazing indeed > > > > There was only one Woodstock - one Toronto Rock N Roll Revival and only > > > one > > > > Long John Baldry - > > > > The article referenced is a media hype by what is likey a lazy > journalist > > > > afraid to say the things I just said cause then VW might not take out > an > > > > advert in the paper > > > > :p sorry so cynical and it is not even friday --- apology to mods if I > > > > offended > > > > Regards > > > > On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 8:42 PM Rowan Tipton <uther@dragonhome.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I am one who is getting up in years and I live in a place > > > (Knoxville,TN) > > > > > with no > > > > > > > > > > public transportation in my area. When I can no longer drive I will > > > have > > > > > to move - > > > > > > > > > > most likely to an old folks home. Shudder. I am really looking > > > forward > > > > > to self > > > > > > > > > > driving cars. My mother still drives at 93 for this very reason. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > r > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> As one of the few blind list members I say bring it on! > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> And, for any of you folks looking at getting up in years I hope > you > > > > too > > > > > > > > > > >> get to enjoy freedom longer by letting the bus safely drive to a > > > camp > > > > > out. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Eric Caron > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Loving the idea of a self driving micro bus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Neil2 > > > '82 Diesel Westfalia (Ducky) > > > '86 Vanagon (SaVannah) > > > '08 170" 2500 Mega Roof Sprinter (Moby) > > > '90 Westfalia Subagon (SaL) > > > Fulltiming since August 2008 > > > Nunquam Pendite Divendium > > > > >


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