Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:02:53 -0800
Reply-To: David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
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From: David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Gas tank hard to fill, another issue
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Don, I think you have an obstruction somewhere. I have never encountered
the problem you mention, though I have used those type fill nozzles in
various places around the country on both my camper and other vehicles. If
there is a problem with the automatic shut off itself, it usually dumps
gas, not the nozzle.
FWIW, I stopped using the latch that holds the nozzle open some time ago
(in some jurisdictions they have been made illegal and removed because of
spill problems), to avoid problems. After all, it only takes a couple of
minutes to fill a tank, except in Oregon, where you have to wait for an
attendant to honor you with his or her assistance.
mcneely
On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 11:00 AM, C. Abney <tsudonimh@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm one of those (Cali) people that leave the nozzle in with the
> hands-free latch engaged, but the only problem I've ever encountered
> is driving off with the nozzle still in the fill opening.
>
> In my defense, it's only happened once. :-)
>
> What it could be is the vent line that opens up beneath the nozzle
> could be clogged. Can't think what else it might be.
>
> On 1/13/17, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Not familiar with those Cali' Nozzles but We hear in NM also
> have a
> > RubberBellows
> >
> > on the Nozzle & I've never had it be a problem, although it does feel a
> bit
> > tenuous when
> >
> > it's being inserted ~
> >
> > ORR ~ DeanB
> >
> > On 13 Jan , 2017, at 10:23 AM, Don Hanson wrote:
> >
> >> I am currently in California, where the gas nozzles have these
> >> spring-loaded bellows surrounding the actual metal nozzle..In other
> >> Western
> >> states these aren't usually encountered (by me). My 84, when the tank
> is
> >> full, has forever "burped" and "drooled" a tiny bit of gas down it's
> body
> >> as the auto-shutoff works.. Not much and my Vanagon is asuan
> >> brown😕.....But here in California, it often spits the whole bloody hose
> >> forcefully out.. right onto the ground. Often the hose ejects itself
> >> randomly, without warning, too...
> >> You California Vanagon peeps, how do you deal with THIS "safety"
> >> feature? One day the ejected nozzle may cause a spark as it hits the
> >> ground.... I'd hate that..👻
> >>
> >> On Jan 13, 2017 8:42 AM, "Stuart MacMillan" <stuartmacm@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> It's been my experience that as the tank gets fuller, you do need to
> slow
> >> down the fill rate or the pump will shut off. Surging out can also
> >> happen.
> >> The air in the tank is vented through the fill neck when filling and is
> >> now
> >> usually sucked up by a vapor control system built into the pump nozzle.
> I
> >> think the "camel hump" design of these tanks causes surging if you fill
> >> too
> >> fast. The pump's auto shut off sends puffs of air down the fill pipe and
> >> measures the time it takes the puffs to bounce back off the surface of
> >> the
> >> fuel. When it rises or sloshes up the pipe it will shut off the pump,
> but
> >> often not fast enough or too soon.
> >>
> >> It's not your charcoal canister, if that was plugged your tank would
> >> collapse as the fuel was drawn down. You probably had enough air leaks
> >> before you resealed the tank to minimize surging.
> >>
> >> Stuart
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> >> Of
> >> Gordon
> >> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 7:41 AM
> >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >> Subject: Gas tank hard to fill
> >>
> >> I've been having a harder time filling my 89 Westy's gas tank more and
> >> more.
> >> Something is blocking or causing back pressure such that the gas station
> >> nozzle is made to stop. I am forced to slowly feed the tank an ounce at
> a
> >> time and it takes forever with much spill over. I've tried several
> >> stations
> >> and it isn't them, I'm afraid.
> >>
> >> I've heard of some filter? Or charcoal? In the way there? Anyone know
> >> what
> >> part may be the culprit?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> - g=
> >
>
>
> --
> It seems my TO-DO list is a FITO (faster-in-than-out)
>
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