Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 17:07:43 -0500
Reply-To: "kenneth wilford (Van-Again)" <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
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From: "kenneth wilford (Van-Again)" <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Don't yell at me but I tried led H4
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Here is a link to a couple of pictures of the bulbs and also a picture of
my friend's van with the bulbs installed.
https://goo.gl/photos/5xTbpCWbrBXvDApXA
Ken
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Ken,
>
> I'd draw your attention to the layout of the leds on the bulb. I choose
> the one I did as I thought the layout most closely matched the filament
> layout in the halogen.
>
> I'm of two minds about the fan cooled units. On one hand it would allow a
> more powerful led array, on the other hand it's one more thing to go wrong.
> But that failure fear is probably un warranted. Btw, my bulbs are 25W each.
>
> I wouldn't put too much faith in advertised light output numbers, lumens.
> It suspect that they are calculated values based on led characteristics and
> not very accurate in real life.
>
> The power handling electronics are built into the lamps I have, no
> separate box in line. Just a pigtail to a three prong male plug.
>
> And see if you can discern any radio interference. Try a faint fm station.
>
> I'm interested in your opinion about the light quality, especially
> distance with high beams.
>
> Cheers
>
> Alistair
>
>
> > On Jan 17, 2017, at 12:17 PM, kenneth wilford (Van-Again) <
> kenwilfy@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > They are kind of similar. It looks like they may have a fan on the rear
> of the bulb and a heat sink. Also there is a box where electronics lives
> that reminds me of the HID bulbs they we were experimenting with a little
> while ago. I wanted to install these today and do the video but it is
> raining here and my shop is tied up at the moment. Maybe if I can get the
> bus I am working on out of the shop or have a decent weather day, I can
> install them on a customer's van that is here right now and do the video.
> I have some pictures from my friend that I supplied them to for testing
> purposes and he loves them and they do give off more light and a nice white
> light that doesn't look weird (HIDs I am thinking of you).
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >> Kenneth,
> >>
> >> Are the similar in form factor to the ones I posted on my blog? The
> link to the source is also on the blog post.
> >>
> >> Are they passively cooled or do they have a fan?
> >>
> >> And do they interfere with weak radio signals or communication radio?
> >>
> >> Btw, The bulbs come with adapters to fit H4, H7, H11, 9005, 9006.
> >>
> >> Alistair
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:05 AM, kenneth wilford (Van-Again) <
> kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I have been experimenting with LED and HID bulbs in the square
> headlights
> >> > for a while now. Just waiting until I got enough experience with
> them to
> >> > talk to the List and my customers about them. I tried the HIDs first
> and
> >> > they worked kinda sorta. If you have low voltage problem at the
> >> > headlights, the HIDs will refuse to come on. :-( Since lots of
> Vanagons
> >> > have this issue and the light from them is very glaringly not stock,
> I have
> >> > decided that HIDs are a bad choice for the Vanagon although they do
> put out
> >> > a lot of light. There is the strange issue that the high beams on
> the HIDs
> >> > are still halogens too. Yeah weird.
> >> >
> >> > The LEDs seem to be the best option and I have found some bulbs that
> seem
> >> > to work well, and not really have much of a down side. I know folks
> are
> >> > switching over to the H4 round lights and that is fine and dandy but
> there
> >> > will always be those of us that actually like the square headlight
> look,
> >> > but want more light. Since the H4 squares have been off the scene
> for a
> >> > while now, going with an LED bulb in place of the crappy 9004 bulb in
> the
> >> > DOT housing is something I wanted to try out. I am probably going to
> do a
> >> > video on it on my Youtube channel in the near future and compare with
> the
> >> > stock DOT lights. Then we are going to be selling the LED bulbs
> through
> >> > our site at that point, so if you are interested let me know. They
> will be
> >> > in the $60 range for a pair of bulbs, which isn't too bad for
> something
> >> > that is pretty much a drop in replacement. Yes it is alot more than
> the
> >> > stock bulbs but something that actually puts out a nice light and
> isn't as
> >> > touchy about voltage, unloads the headlight switch without relays.
> There
> >> > are lots of pluses.
> >> >
> >> > Ken Wilford
> >> > John 3:16
> >> > www.vanagain.com
> >> >
> >> >> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Raimund Feussner <ray@v6bus.de>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Alistair,
> >> >>
> >> >> please also report any oncoming traffic that feels blinded by your
> LEDs.
> >> >> This is mostly the reason why police stops you with non-streetlegal
> >> >> bulbs...in Germany.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >> Raimund
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> Am 17.01.2017 um 15:05 schrieb Johann Koenig:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Just picked up 7" LED buckets:
> >> >>> http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_2564_141/led_
> headlight_pair.html
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Have not installed yet but when I stopped by to pick them up
> yesterday the
> >> >>> staff said they are very good.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Jan 16, 2017 11:40 PM, "Alistair Bell" <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I had to try, the bulbs looked like they would work. And did they?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> See here on my blog
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> https://shufti.blog/2017/01/16/vanagon-h4-led-light-bulb-
> experiment/
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Wasn't a complete waste of time and money, it was interesting.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Alistair
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Ken Wilford
> >> > John 3:16
> >> > www.vanagain.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > Ken Wilford
> > John 3:16
> > www.vanagain.com
>
--
Thanks,
Ken Wilford
John 3:16
www.vanagain.com
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