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Date:   Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:56:33 +0000
Reply-To:   Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
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From:   Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:   Re: Replacing the starter on my 87 Westy
Comments:   To: John Rodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM>
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I love the way you described this, John.  It SEEMS to add reliability, but when things go wrong makes things just CRAZY complex to figure out!  Just go with minimum of RELIABLE components, if possible; don't add layer upon layer to try to get reliability.  Stout, good stuff; good basics (like shiny electrical connections well protected by grease and all). I went for Karl Mullendore's adapter with a Bosch TDI starter on my Subie 2.2 motor; starts every time now, in all conditions.  And that's a high compression motor.

I read about the GoWesty gear reduction starter--it's a solid contender too. BTW...when having starter grief, I bought a "hard start relay kit", desperate for a solution.  Man, I drove from Missouri to San Diego, never ever being sure if I could start my van; many downhill "bump starts".  Many nights parked in campgrounds parked "slightly" downhill....you know what I mean.

Once I thought it all through however, I went with what I described above.  The hard start kit sits on the garage shelf....anybody want it?!!  Ha-ha!! DON'T go for band-aids; just fix it once and be done with it.

Rich San Diego

From: John Rodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 4:37 PM Subject: Re: Replacing the starter on my 87 Westy Regards this hard start kit or any other electrical add on - an old axiom from Dennis Haynes that really applies , THE MORE YOU AD ON, THE MORE THAT CAN GO WRONG. Always keep that in mind when planning upgrades.

We always had a similar axion when flying, -  in a single engine plane, you have a single chance for engine failure. In a twin engine airplane you have twice the chance for engine failure, and getting on the ground safely is not the same. There's a completely different set of perameters between single engine and twin engine safety. But for Vanagons, if it's a critical system failure , get off the road and park, til you figure it out. But you WILL have more to check out if you have modified your van!

John

On Jan 21, 2017 18:07, "Dan N" <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote:

I have a gear reduction starter few months ago .. it's too young to tell the difference...

anyway whatever starter you put in I'd recommend this kit...

http://www.t3technique.com/electrical/deluxe-hard-start-relay-kit.html


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