Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 02:12:24 +0000
Reply-To: "kenneth wilford (Van-Again)" <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
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From: "kenneth wilford (Van-Again)" <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Don't yell at me but I tried led H4
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Ok, sounds good.
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017, 9:04 PM Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Ok, saw the pics. To be honest those were the type of led bulbs that I
> rejected. My reasoning, and I'm spitballing here so take it for what it's
> worth, is that those led units do not mimic the filament position of the
> halogen bulbs. I think they won't produce as sharp and defined beam pattern
> as the ones I chose. I may be wrong, but that was my reasoning. My concern
> is the low beam cut off that the e code lamps are designed to produce.
>
> They will be bright but I'm going to predict they will be more glaring on
> low beam than the ones I bought.
>
> But let's see, right? It's pouring down rain tonight here, I didn't do the
> "lights on the wall comparing halogen and led test" . But let's both get
> that done sooner rather than later and we can compare, ok?
>
> Cheers
>
> Alistair
>
>
>
> > On Jan 17, 2017, at 2:07 PM, kenneth wilford (Van-Again) <
> kenwilfy@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > Here is a link to a couple of pictures of the bulbs and also a picture
> of my friend's van with the bulbs installed.
> >
> > https://goo.gl/photos/5xTbpCWbrBXvDApXA
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >> Ken,
> >>
> >> I'd draw your attention to the layout of the leds on the bulb. I choose
> the one I did as I thought the layout most closely matched the filament
> layout in the halogen.
> >>
> >> I'm of two minds about the fan cooled units. On one hand it would allow
> a more powerful led array, on the other hand it's one more thing to go
> wrong. But that failure fear is probably un warranted. Btw, my bulbs are
> 25W each.
> >>
> >> I wouldn't put too much faith in advertised light output numbers,
> lumens. It suspect that they are calculated values based on led
> characteristics and not very accurate in real life.
> >>
> >> The power handling electronics are built into the lamps I have, no
> separate box in line. Just a pigtail to a three prong male plug.
> >>
> >> And see if you can discern any radio interference. Try a faint fm
> station.
> >>
> >> I'm interested in your opinion about the light quality, especially
> distance with high beams.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Alistair
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Jan 17, 2017, at 12:17 PM, kenneth wilford (Van-Again) <
> kenwilfy@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > They are kind of similar. It looks like they may have a fan on the
> rear of the bulb and a heat sink. Also there is a box where electronics
> lives that reminds me of the HID bulbs they we were experimenting with a
> little while ago. I wanted to install these today and do the video but it
> is raining here and my shop is tied up at the moment. Maybe if I can get
> the bus I am working on out of the shop or have a decent weather day, I can
> install them on a customer's van that is here right now and do the video.
> I have some pictures from my friend that I supplied them to for testing
> purposes and he loves them and they do give off more light and a nice white
> light that doesn't look weird (HIDs I am thinking of you).
> >> >
> >> > Ken
> >> >
> >> >> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca>
> wrote:
> >> >> Kenneth,
> >> >>
> >> >> Are the similar in form factor to the ones I posted on my blog? The
> link to the source is also on the blog post.
> >> >>
> >> >> Are they passively cooled or do they have a fan?
> >> >>
> >> >> And do they interfere with weak radio signals or communication radio?
> >> >>
> >> >> Btw, The bulbs come with adapters to fit H4, H7, H11, 9005, 9006.
> >> >>
> >> >> Alistair
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:05 AM, kenneth wilford (Van-Again) <
> kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have been experimenting with LED and HID bulbs in the square
> headlights
> >> >> > for a while now. Just waiting until I got enough experience with
> them to
> >> >> > talk to the List and my customers about them. I tried the HIDs
> first and
> >> >> > they worked kinda sorta. If you have low voltage problem at the
> >> >> > headlights, the HIDs will refuse to come on. :-( Since lots of
> Vanagons
> >> >> > have this issue and the light from them is very glaringly not
> stock, I have
> >> >> > decided that HIDs are a bad choice for the Vanagon although they
> do put out
> >> >> > a lot of light. There is the strange issue that the high beams on
> the HIDs
> >> >> > are still halogens too. Yeah weird.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The LEDs seem to be the best option and I have found some bulbs
> that seem
> >> >> > to work well, and not really have much of a down side. I know
> folks are
> >> >> > switching over to the H4 round lights and that is fine and dandy
> but there
> >> >> > will always be those of us that actually like the square headlight
> look,
> >> >> > but want more light. Since the H4 squares have been off the scene
> for a
> >> >> > while now, going with an LED bulb in place of the crappy 9004 bulb
> in the
> >> >> > DOT housing is something I wanted to try out. I am probably going
> to do a
> >> >> > video on it on my Youtube channel in the near future and compare
> with the
> >> >> > stock DOT lights. Then we are going to be selling the LED bulbs
> through
> >> >> > our site at that point, so if you are interested let me know.
> They will be
> >> >> > in the $60 range for a pair of bulbs, which isn't too bad for
> something
> >> >> > that is pretty much a drop in replacement. Yes it is alot more
> than the
> >> >> > stock bulbs but something that actually puts out a nice light and
> isn't as
> >> >> > touchy about voltage, unloads the headlight switch without
> relays. There
> >> >> > are lots of pluses.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ken Wilford
> >> >> > John 3:16
> >> >> > www.vanagain.com
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Raimund Feussner <ray@v6bus.de>
> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Alistair,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> please also report any oncoming traffic that feels blinded by
> your LEDs.
> >> >> >> This is mostly the reason why police stops you with
> non-streetlegal
> >> >> >> bulbs...in Germany.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks
> >> >> >> Raimund
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> Am 17.01.2017 um 15:05 schrieb Johann Koenig:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Just picked up 7" LED buckets:
> >> >> >>>
> http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_2564_141/led_headlight_pair.html
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Have not installed yet but when I stopped by to pick them up
> yesterday the
> >> >> >>> staff said they are very good.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On Jan 16, 2017 11:40 PM, "Alistair Bell" <albell@shaw.ca>
> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> I had to try, the bulbs looked like they would work. And did
> they?
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> See here on my blog
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> https://shufti.blog/2017/01/16/vanagon-h4-led-light-bulb-experiment/
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Wasn't a complete waste of time and money, it was interesting.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Alistair
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> > Ken Wilford
> >> >> > John 3:16
> >> >> > www.vanagain.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Ken Wilford
> >> > John 3:16
> >> > www.vanagain.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > Ken Wilford
> > John 3:16
> > www.vanagain.com
>
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