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Date:         Tue, 17 Jan 2017 17:07:43 -0500
Reply-To:     "kenneth wilford (Van-Again)" <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         "kenneth wilford (Van-Again)" <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
Subject:      Re: Don't yell at me but I tried led H4
Comments: To: Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca>
In-Reply-To:  <7A2E5703-49EA-405A-9B72-B6791A813D47@shaw.ca>
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Here is a link to a couple of pictures of the bulbs and also a picture of my friend's van with the bulbs installed.

https://goo.gl/photos/5xTbpCWbrBXvDApXA

Ken

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:

> Ken, > > I'd draw your attention to the layout of the leds on the bulb. I choose > the one I did as I thought the layout most closely matched the filament > layout in the halogen. > > I'm of two minds about the fan cooled units. On one hand it would allow a > more powerful led array, on the other hand it's one more thing to go wrong. > But that failure fear is probably un warranted. Btw, my bulbs are 25W each. > > I wouldn't put too much faith in advertised light output numbers, lumens. > It suspect that they are calculated values based on led characteristics and > not very accurate in real life. > > The power handling electronics are built into the lamps I have, no > separate box in line. Just a pigtail to a three prong male plug. > > And see if you can discern any radio interference. Try a faint fm station. > > I'm interested in your opinion about the light quality, especially > distance with high beams. > > Cheers > > Alistair > > > > On Jan 17, 2017, at 12:17 PM, kenneth wilford (Van-Again) < > kenwilfy@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > They are kind of similar. It looks like they may have a fan on the rear > of the bulb and a heat sink. Also there is a box where electronics lives > that reminds me of the HID bulbs they we were experimenting with a little > while ago. I wanted to install these today and do the video but it is > raining here and my shop is tied up at the moment. Maybe if I can get the > bus I am working on out of the shop or have a decent weather day, I can > install them on a customer's van that is here right now and do the video. > I have some pictures from my friend that I supplied them to for testing > purposes and he loves them and they do give off more light and a nice white > light that doesn't look weird (HIDs I am thinking of you). > > > > Ken > > > >> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote: > >> Kenneth, > >> > >> Are the similar in form factor to the ones I posted on my blog? The > link to the source is also on the blog post. > >> > >> Are they passively cooled or do they have a fan? > >> > >> And do they interfere with weak radio signals or communication radio? > >> > >> Btw, The bulbs come with adapters to fit H4, H7, H11, 9005, 9006. > >> > >> Alistair > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:05 AM, kenneth wilford (Van-Again) < > kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET> wrote: > >> > > >> > I have been experimenting with LED and HID bulbs in the square > headlights > >> > for a while now. Just waiting until I got enough experience with > them to > >> > talk to the List and my customers about them. I tried the HIDs first > and > >> > they worked kinda sorta. If you have low voltage problem at the > >> > headlights, the HIDs will refuse to come on. :-( Since lots of > Vanagons > >> > have this issue and the light from them is very glaringly not stock, > I have > >> > decided that HIDs are a bad choice for the Vanagon although they do > put out > >> > a lot of light. There is the strange issue that the high beams on > the HIDs > >> > are still halogens too. Yeah weird. > >> > > >> > The LEDs seem to be the best option and I have found some bulbs that > seem > >> > to work well, and not really have much of a down side. I know folks > are > >> > switching over to the H4 round lights and that is fine and dandy but > there > >> > will always be those of us that actually like the square headlight > look, > >> > but want more light. Since the H4 squares have been off the scene > for a > >> > while now, going with an LED bulb in place of the crappy 9004 bulb in > the > >> > DOT housing is something I wanted to try out. I am probably going to > do a > >> > video on it on my Youtube channel in the near future and compare with > the > >> > stock DOT lights. Then we are going to be selling the LED bulbs > through > >> > our site at that point, so if you are interested let me know. They > will be > >> > in the $60 range for a pair of bulbs, which isn't too bad for > something > >> > that is pretty much a drop in replacement. Yes it is alot more than > the > >> > stock bulbs but something that actually puts out a nice light and > isn't as > >> > touchy about voltage, unloads the headlight switch without relays. > There > >> > are lots of pluses. > >> > > >> > Ken Wilford > >> > John 3:16 > >> > www.vanagain.com > >> > > >> >> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Raimund Feussner <ray@v6bus.de> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Alistair, > >> >> > >> >> please also report any oncoming traffic that feels blinded by your > LEDs. > >> >> This is mostly the reason why police stops you with non-streetlegal > >> >> bulbs...in Germany. > >> >> > >> >> Thanks > >> >> Raimund > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>> Am 17.01.2017 um 15:05 schrieb Johann Koenig: > >> >>> > >> >>> Just picked up 7" LED buckets: > >> >>> http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_2564_141/led_ > headlight_pair.html > >> >>> > >> >>> Have not installed yet but when I stopped by to pick them up > yesterday the > >> >>> staff said they are very good. > >> >>> > >> >>> On Jan 16, 2017 11:40 PM, "Alistair Bell" <albell@shaw.ca> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> I had to try, the bulbs looked like they would work. And did they? > >> >>>> > >> >>>> See here on my blog > >> >>>> > >> >>>> https://shufti.blog/2017/01/16/vanagon-h4-led-light-bulb- > experiment/ > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Wasn't a complete waste of time and money, it was interesting. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Alistair > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Thanks, > >> > Ken Wilford > >> > John 3:16 > >> > www.vanagain.com > > > > > > > > -- > > Thanks, > > Ken Wilford > > John 3:16 > > www.vanagain.com >

-- Thanks, Ken Wilford John 3:16 www.vanagain.com


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