Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 00:21:39 -0400
Reply-To: David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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From: David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject: Re: Hatchback struts
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:-)
They also have a roll your own page.
d
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 12:17 AM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Oh get out!
>
> The struts come charged and you let out the gas to adjust?
>
> Oh boy, that's a task filled with no second chance pressure.
>
> :-)
>
> That's my two pun sentence for the month.
>
> Ab
>
> On Mar 29, 2017, at 9:13 PM, David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net> wrote:
>
> http://www.sgs-engineering.com/help-advice/how-do-i-
> adjust-the-force-on-my-gas-strut/
>
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 12:08 AM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> Thanks stu, I'll look at their listings.
>>
>> I had found some likely sources, some marine, and surprisingly ( for me)
>> companies that sell stuff for tanning beds.
>>
>> It's one of those searches where one gets enthusiastic then beaten down
>> :-)
>>
>> Ab
>>
>> > On Mar 29, 2017, at 2:25 PM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Alistair,
>> >
>> > McMaster-Carr has a reducible pressure gas spring that might work. If
>> not, they've got hundreds of others: https://www.mcmaster.com/#gas-
>> springs/=16yx01e
>> >
>> > Stuart
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>> Behalf Of Alistair Bell
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 12:46 PM
>> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> > Subject: Re: Hatchback struts
>> >
>> > You might be disappointed. With Simon's set up, the 1250N struts, it
>> would hold up the hatch with tire carrier and tire in place. But when I
>> added the bike carrier and the bike to the hatch it would not hold things
>> up. But it was close to holding, so I moved the tire mounting position up
>> about 8" and that difference in load placement in relationship to the strut
>> and hinge conformation was enough to make it work.
>> >
>> > The original placement of the tire mount on the rack was made as low as
>> possible to reduce tire coverage of the rear window but not so low as to
>> cover the tail light. When I moved the location upwards I also moved it to
>> the left, outboard, to reduce the tire coverage on the rear window.
>> >
>> > Bottom line is that you need hefty struts to hold the hatch open with a
>> tire on a hatch rack. I have a tire on the hatch and my struts which are
>> the stock heavy duty ones will not hold the hatch open. I have to resort to
>> the tube slipped over the strut hack to hold the hatch open.
>> >
>> > I'm looking for another source of high force struts.
>> >
>> > Alistair
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Mar 29, 2017, at 10:55 AM, Roman Haag <romanhaag@YMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Oh I like that, OlRivrRat. I think'tt work well. If it's strong enough
>> to open it on its own once unlocked then I figure it'll make a loaded hatch
>> easier at least.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent from someone's plumbing
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On Mar 29, 2017, at 13:50, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> 1 Additional Note though ~ These Struts are the 1st Set I have
>> >>> ever that would cause
>> >>>
>> >>> the Hatch to Lift WithOut Help once the Lock is Unlocked ~ During the
>> >>> Summer I have to be
>> >>>
>> >>> Sure & Not have My Chin in the way when I release the Lock ~
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> On 29 Mar , 2017, at 11:41 AM, OlRivrRat wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm in trouble now ~ I decided that I would go out this Morn' &
>> >>>> Measure to know
>> >>>>
>> >>>> for sure ~ Keep in mind that it is only 50ºF this Morn' so the
>> >>>> Struts are considerably
>> >>>>
>> >>>> weaker than on a Hot Summer Day ~ But ~ I Was Way Off ~
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Went out with a 330Lb "Fish"Scale I have & only needed about 10%
>> >>>> of it ~
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Out on the End of the Hatch it takes 30Lbs to pull it down & @ the
>> >>>> Bottom of the
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Window it takes 45Lbs ~ I'll do the same test this Summer & let
>> >>>> YouAll know ~
>> >>>>
>> >>>> There Really have been times when it has seemed to take
>> >>>> everything I had
>> >>>>
>> >>>> to get it to go down ~ But than I Am Old ~
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ORR ~ DeanB
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On 29 Mar , 2017, at 10:39 AM, Neil2 wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I have about 7 new struts that look at first glance to be exactly
>> >>>>> like those in the link above from GW's site. I can send you the
>> >>>>> identifier if you're interested. I don't want to make any money on
>> 'em.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 9:05 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Hi,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> My friend Simon bought some 1250 N struts from Germany for the
>> >>>>>> similar reason. They're great, lifts his spare tire rack and bike
>> >>>>>> rack ( with tire and bike) that I made for him.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Without anything on the hatch it's hard to close.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Unfortunately the German source has dried up, but I mention it so
>> >>>>>> you will know that 1250N is strong enough for a good load on hatch.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Oh, and before anyone asks, it's been almost three years now with
>> >>>>>> the struts and no adverse effect noted on the hatch.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I've been looking for similar struts but not found any yet.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Alistair
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 7:24 PM, Roman Haag <romanhaag@YMAIL.COM>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I recently got a Gary Lee multipurpose rack, which has my spare,
>> >>>>>>> a gas
>> >>>>>> can, and a hi-lift jack on it.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I need some stronger struts and am having a hard time finding
>> >>>>>>> info about
>> >>>>>> them. Does anyone hear have any experience with them and could
>> >>>>>> possibly recommend me some?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> All of the GoWesty/Bus Depot ones sound good, but they don't
>> >>>>>>> really give
>> >>>>>> nay specific information.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I've found these but I'm not even sure they'll fit. I know the
>> >>>>>>> Vanagon
>> >>>>>> ones compress to 11.75", as well.
>> >>>>>>> http://www.siraweb.com/gas-prop-c16-23835
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Any help is appreciated. I'd hate to be the guy responsible for
>> >>>>>>> our
>> >>>>>> local Vdub mechanic getting hurt by a hatchback ;)
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Roman
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Neil2
>> >>>>> '82 Diesel Westfalia (Ducky)
>> >>>>> '86 Vanagon (SaVannah)
>> >>>>> '08 170" 2500 Mega Roof Sprinter (Moby)
>> >>>>> '90 Westfalia Subagon (SaL)
>> >>>>> Fulltiming since August 2008
>> >>>>> Nunquam Pendite Divendium
>> >
>>
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