Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 22:34:14 -0600
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From: OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Anti-Freeze opinions
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This Thread is about "Anti-Freeze opinions" > What Coolant To Use ~ Not Change Intervals ~
The Orig' Poster > Michael Magnani ~ Asked this >
"I'm wondering what Vanagon owners think about the name-brand pre-mixed 50/50 antifreeze sold at the local auto parts stores.
I've been using it in my TDI VW's without any problems for many years.
Thanks,"
Not Far into the discussion the product Water Wetter was suggested & That Link Should Lead Directly to
VANAGON archives – July 2016, week 3 Topic #12 Coolant Mystery positive update - WATER WETTER
& the Posts that were related to that Thread ~
On 4 Apr , 2017, at 10:13 PM, bernie wrote:
> I'm with you there I didn't see it either.
>
> Bernie
>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 8:45 PM, Stephen Engel <sengel543@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> That link provided me with more than 200 messages. I read the ones with
>> coolant related subject titles. I guess I missed some thing, what's Dennis'
>> recommended coolant change interval?
>> Hopefully the new Vanagon.com/archives will have a better search feature?
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 10:57 PM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> @ JeffP
>>
>> A "Dennis" response is in the Archives from Just 7Mos ago ~
>>
>> http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A1=ind1607c&L=vanagon#12
>>
>>
>> On 4 Apr , 2017, at 5:19 PM, Jeff Palmer wrote:
>>
>>> I'm waiting to hear from Dennis. I think he's still on his original
>> heads.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>> Not original heads
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 6:15 PM, bernie <1234bjs@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> *From Go Westy*
>>>>
>>>> *Two year service (regardless of mileage):*
>>>> Cooling system flush
>>>> -Phosphate-free coolant, any brand, any color
>>>> -Distilled water - must be distilled
>>>> Brake fluid flush
>>>> Clutch fluid flush (manual trans only)
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 2:47 PM, John Lauterbach <
>> john@jhl.mgacoxmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We need facts, not opinions. I know that some of you reapir vanagon
>>>>> for a living. How often should I drain and flush the cooling system on
>>>>> my Vanagon; The last time my Vanagon saw new coolant was August 2003
>>>>> What would you do if you were servicing my Vanagon?
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 2:23 PM, OlRivrRat wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2 Apr , 2017, at 11:35 PM, Gene P wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If your cooling system is operating properly, you could be running
>>>>>>> apple juice or skim milk in it and the running temperature will be
>>>>>>> determined by which thermostat is installed. Exotic fluids do not
>>>>>>> change the setting of a thermostat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Valid Point > To a Point ~ Let's consider this ~ If WW is able
>>>>>> to create a Condition that Improves Heat Transfer From Eng' Metal to
>>>>>> Coolant & Coolant to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Radiator Metal & Coolant to Thermostat then the Thermostat Could
>>>>>> Conceivably Sense Heat Changes More Quickly & Therefore Respond More
>>>>>> Quickly to those
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Temp' Changes ~
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But ~ Also To Be Considered > Since Our Temp'Gauges &
>>>>>> Temp'Sensors Only Supply Us with the Temp' of the Coolant, We can Only
>>>>>> Assume that We
>>>>>>
>>>>>> know the Actual Temp' of the Eng' ~ Since We Don't have PistonTop or
>>>>>> Cylinder or Head Temp' Sensors, We just have to have Faith that the
>>>>>> Coolant is able
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to give Us & The ECU accurate info with which We & The ECU can develop
>>>>>> an Educated Guess as to the Actual Temp' Conditions present within the
>>>>>> Eng' ~
>>>>>> Let's Surmise ~ If WW Actually Lowers Heat Transfer, thereby
>>>>>> Leaving The Heat in the Eng'Metal & also Being LessAble to Transfer
>>>>>> the Heat that it is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> able to collect to the Temp' Sensor, It Would Appear To Us, Via the
>>>>>> Temp'Gauge, that WW Was Indeed Keeping the Eng' Cooler when in
>>>>>> Actuality it Would
>>>>>> Only be keeping the Coolant Cooler ~
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yet Another Thing to Consider > The ECU makes Its Educated
>>>>>> Guesses as to the Conditions In & Around The Combustion Chamber, in
>>>>>> part, from Temp'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Info It gets from the Coolant Temp' Sensor ~ So ~ If WW Does Alter the
>>>>>> Heat Transfer Ability of the Coolant, Up or Down, That Temp' Info
>>>>>> Could Indicate to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the ECU that the Conditions In & Around The Combustion Chamber Are Not
>>>>>> What They Actually Are ~ That Could Get Confusing to the ECU if
>>>>>> Coolant Temp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> was Telling it it Needed to Go Rich & The O2Snsr was Telling it it
>>>>>> Needed to go Lean (or VisaVersa) ~
>>>>>> There is a Bit More Info & Ideas about WW in the Archives @
>>>>>> http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A1=ind1607c&L=vanagon#12
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ORR ~ DeanB
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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