Date: Thu, 4 May 2017 23:03:37 -0700
Reply-To: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Vanagon prices
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Dera Thrift Shoppers
My first was a 70 Loaf that i found the guts of a westfailia and filled to
make a camper -
It was a trade off from girlfriends brother - the engine was tired and lots
of missing bits - so i replaced much -
That was named TIN CAN Tourist - and TIN CAN Tourist became the delinquint
child of our split -
Oh well -
Then with new wife in 2005 we bought a 1989 California model 5 speed Diesel
- very sweet vanagon - as you all recall fell off the road in 2009 at just
prior to christmas @ Wamsutter Why Owe Ming - -- That van cost 20 K cdn to
buy and was worth every penny -
the new engine in 2008 cost nearly 7K USd installed --- (Thanks WagonWerks
in Garden City Ida Ho )-- The insurance co tried to offer me 4K cdn for it
- Thanks to Lucas at Go westy - and threat of legal action from me they
recanted and at least gave purchase price even though i had a policy where
i paid considerable more to have it insured for 36K
I bought a 83.5 Vanagon in Chico -- we did not love it and it did not love
us - had to put a different engine in right away and that cost several days
plus $$ (Thanks Tom (Father Tom ) -
That sat in our yard for a long time before i sodl it to a sheep farmer who
loves it -- and it loves them -- they call me when ever they have an issue
...lol.. not often
we are now seeking our next one -- seen loads of duds and loads of
lipsticked oinkers -- all asking for huge $$ --
SO much like boats -- the ask and the sell are vastly different --
People who go on some internet site and ask crazy $$ will never tell what
they sold for or if the vehicel sold --
there are lots of unsuspecting folks who will purchase a lipsticked oinker
and think they got a heck of a deal -
there are loads of people who rage agaisnt capitalism while they knock on
the doors of a business for support for non profit cause -
There are loads of people who think there is a conspiracy agaisnt them
personally by a nighbour or a group --- the good news is i do not have to
be associated with any of those groups - unless i choose -
There are loads of people who believe the only way to travel the world is
by Westfailia --
You are free to assoicate as you please --
Moreover in all of this the $$$ you spend on your vanagon do not increase
selling price -- the $$ you spend on your vanagon do little more then
extend your ride -- and make your ride show better at the curb on sale day
than the one who spent nothing --
Go Westy is unusaul in $ ask because they rebuild the whole van by hand -
you are now driving a rols royce as it were and the price reflects it --
and we often see vangons offered second hand by Go Westy -- the same van as
they sold some years before -- but here is the difference -- between your
average seller and Go Westy --
Go Westy offers extensive history of van with purchase price - price of
each part installed and mark up % clearly stated -- All documented and
photgraphed - then parks van on lot to await next owner -
Average Seller takes one or two pictures has a shoe box with most reciepts
and claims to have spent a crapper load of $$ while driving van across
country three times with two dogs and a host of questionalble escapapdes
not suitable for family friendly blog --
regards
On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 7:59 PM, Bruce Todd <beeceetee@gmail.com> wrote:
> 1986 Syncro Westfalia - bought in June 2006 for $12,500 (Cdn) in Squamish
> B.C. - seller was asking $14,500. At the time about a 6.5 /10. Since then
> I've plunked down a fair penny to continue to bullet proof and upgrade my
> ride.
>
>
> Bruce Todd
>
> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Erin Daniels <eirejammer@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I paid $2,500 for my vanagon (not a camper) in 2005 in Oregon. Since then
> > I've put a few engines, new radiator, etc.
> >
> > > On May 4, 2017, at 9:44 AM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Sure, I'd contribute purchases from 2011 ('85 camper $7500) and 2014
> > ('87 camper $13,750). To be useful they need to be organized by state and
> > have some info on condition. I'd also be interested in what people have
> > invested in their vans since purchase (parts and DIY or professional work
> > separated).
> > >
> > > Maybe the easiest thing is a Survey Monkey poll with all the pertinent
> > questions, price ranges, investment, etc. that could be promoted on the
> FB
> > page too.
> > >
> > > West coast prices are also much higher than anywhere else in the
> country.
> > >
> > > I have a PDF of a Monroney sticker from an '85 Westy full camper
> > identical to mine, and it's $19,485 list price. POE was Jacksonville, and
> > was sold by Rich Hodges VW in Huntsville, AL. I'll bet it sold for at
> least
> > that.
> > >
> > > That's $45,000 in 2017 dollars, so VW campers were never cheap! I also
> > have a brochure from the late '80s for the Vanagon Camper, and the people
> > in the photos are in their late 50's or early 60's. No children shown,
> they
> > would be the grandchildren if there were!
> > >
> > > Stuart
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of Aaron Nelson
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 8:39 AM
> > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > Subject: Re: Vanagon prices
> > >
> > > Hi everyone.
> > >
> > > I'm a relative newcomer to the community.
> > >
> > > I invested a huge amount of time/energy trolling Samba, Craigslist and
> > Ebay for a "good deal" before finally taking the plunge on a 1985
> Weekender
> > last October. I still periodically follow the various marketplaces - and
> > remain puzzled by the significant variability in "asking prices" -
> > especially on Samba. I should probably disclose that I am a procurement
> > professional by day (which may explain my weird obsession with market
> > pricing).
> > >
> > > I suspect that most of us would be keen to have access to market data
> on
> > Vanagon prices. Perhaps the more interesting question is whether there
> are
> > enough of us willing to disclose what we paid for our van(s).
> > >
> > > I think it wouldn't be terribly difficult to manage such a database on
> > an anonymous basis. There's no need to list names of buyers or sellers.
> > >
> > > I'd certainly be willing to contribute the 'data' from my purchase -
> > heck, I'd even be happy to compile a database (assuming there's
> interest).
> > >
> > > Anyone else interested?
> > >
> > > Aaron
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 9:50 AM, KIM BRENNAN <kimbrennan@mac.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> 2017 dollars are not the same as 1986 dollars….
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On May 4, 2017, at 10:06 AM, John Rodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Has anyone tracked what's happening with Vanagon values lately?
> > >>>
> > >>> This from the NADA BUYERS GUIDE. I pulled this up yesterday,
> > >>>
> > >>> 1991 Volkswagen Vanagon Carat
> > >>>
> > >>> May 1, 2015
> > >>> Original MSRP Low Retail Average Retail High Retail
> > >>> $18735 $4800 $8300 $15000
> > >>>
> > >>> May 1, 2017
> > >>> $18735 $6050 $10550 $18300
> > >>>
> > >>> Over a two year span this is terrific if you are selling, not so
> > >>> good if you are buying. Of course all the real value is in what you
> > >>> sell or buy
> > >> it
> > >>> for!
> > >>>
> > >>> John
> > >>
> >
>
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