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Date:         Thu, 4 May 2017 13:29:19 -0700
Reply-To:     David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Vanagon prices
Comments: To: Eric Caron <ecaron1@comcast.net>
In-Reply-To:  <B364F218-6961-403C-B3E1-A70F96053EF6@comcast.net>
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Jim Felder, As you must know, NADA listings are based on sales, not not what is asked.

The prices people are getting and paying reflect two things, methinks (besides variables related to the vehicles themselves, things like condition): 1) The cult status of Vanagons, and 2) simple inflation.

mcneely

On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Eric Caron <ecaron1@comcast.net> wrote:

> 1985 GL Auto full camper > rust free some minor dents and scratches. > Running well at about 130,000 K. > Paid $11,000 in 2013. > > Had it painted and all dents and such belt with. spoiled it with many > purchases. > Did some prevention work but basically has been running well as I got it > for the past 4 years. > Mostly an original with I hope tactful upgrades, example OEM mud flaps all > around. > > most other investments on upgrading mechanical or aging parts like fuel > lines, hoses, and consumables like tune up and tire upgrades. > > Eric Caron > 85 GL Auto westfalia > > > On May 4, 2017, at 12:01 PM, Markus M. <markusmumper@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > '87 automatic Westfalia camper in very good condition, purchased in Pismo > Beach, CA, in 2005 for $8,000, has run pretty much trouble free since with > ongoing maintenance. > > Markus and The Girl. > > On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 8:38 AM, Aaron Nelson <aaronynelson@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi everyone. > > > > I'm a relative newcomer to the community. > > > > I invested a huge amount of time/energy trolling Samba, Craigslist and > Ebay > > for a "good deal" before finally taking the plunge on a 1985 Weekender > last > > October. I still periodically follow the various marketplaces - and > remain > > puzzled by the significant variability in "asking prices" - especially on > > Samba. I should probably disclose that I am a procurement professional > by > > day (which may explain my weird obsession with market pricing). > > > > I suspect that most of us would be keen to have access to market data on > > Vanagon prices. Perhaps the more interesting question is whether there > are > > enough of us willing to disclose what we paid for our van(s). > > > > I think it wouldn't be terribly difficult to manage such a database on an > > anonymous basis. There's no need to list names of buyers or sellers. > > > > I'd certainly be willing to contribute the 'data' from my purchase - > heck, > > I'd even be happy to compile a database (assuming there's interest). > > > > Anyone else interested? > > > > Aaron > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 9:50 AM, KIM BRENNAN <kimbrennan@mac.com> wrote: > > > >> 2017 dollars are not the same as 1986 dollars…. > >> > >> > >>> On May 4, 2017, at 10:06 AM, John Rodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM> > > wrote: > >>> > >>> Has anyone tracked what's happening with Vanagon values lately? > >>> > >>> This from the NADA BUYERS GUIDE. I pulled this up yesterday, > >>> > >>> 1991 Volkswagen Vanagon Carat > >>> > >>> May 1, 2015 > >>> Original MSRP Low Retail Average Retail High Retail > >>> $18735 $4800 $8300 $15000 > >>> > >>> May 1, 2017 > >>> $18735 $6050 $10550 $18300 > >>> > >>> Over a two year span this is terrific if you are selling, not so good > > if > >>> you are buying. Of course all the real value is in what you sell or buy > >> it > >>> for! > >>> > >>> John > >> > > >


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