Date: Sun, 21 May 2017 10:46:54 -0700
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From: Wes Neuenschwander <wes.neuenschwander@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Intermittent Power Loss - '91 Westy
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Thanks Steven,
Discussed that with Chris, my Vanagon guru. He felt that given the pattern of failures – low speed around town, OK on the freeway – fuel starvation was unlikely.
-Wes
From: Steven Johnson [mailto:sjohnso2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 4:06 AM
To: Wes Neuenschwander
Cc: vanlist
Subject: Re: Intermittent Power Loss - '91 Westy
The first thing that comes to my mind on this that I'm wondering if you might have a fuel pump that is possibly partially clogged or is starting to die. Not sure how to check this other than to replace it.
Steven
91 Westy
On May 20, 2017 10:48 AM, "Wes Neuenschwander" <wes.neuenschwander@comcast.net> wrote:
While preparing our 'trusty' '91 Westy for a trip to the remote (and
supremely lovely) Okanogan region of Eastern Washington, I experienced a
sudden loss of power, with the rpm's dropping from 3,000 to around 800, even
with the throttle depressed. Still on my local Seattle neighborhood
streets, I pulled over and after a minute or so was able to nurse the engine
back up to 3,000 rpm, restoring power and driving back home. Took it
directly to my regular (and every excellent) local VW shop, Fine Tuning in
N. Seattle, without any power loss or other problems. The car repeated the
power loss during a test drive, this time losing power completely and engine
dying. The owner, Chris, was able to restart the engine after a couple of
minutes and got it back to the shop, where they went over the obvious stuff,
not finding anything. Next day, they started the vehicle and left it idling
for an hour or so, without problems. Subsequent test drives also went
without problems.
On Chris' suggestion we disconnected the O2 sensor and I've been driving it,
mainly on short, local drives now for several days without incident.
Haven't encountered anything similar in the 26 years we've owned the van
(bought it new in '91), though have barely driven it for the last couple of
years (like 700 miles over 2 years!) with the van sitting in the garage,
idle, for the last several months or so.
In addition to the O2 sensor / sensor wiring possibility, Chris has also
suggested it could also be a faulty ECU. The ECU is original, and I know
these tend to have solder joint corrosion problems over time. I'm not sure
how old the O2 sensor might be, though it's probably not original (but I
suspect it's pretty old). Ditto, I guess to a degree, various other
sensors, as well as sensor wiring. Ignition components, including spark
plug wiring, distributor, etc. have been fairly recently been replaced.
The engine is a GoWesty 2.2L engine, installed nearly 10 years/25,000 miles
ago, and aside from the recent loss of power problems, has run beautifully
since it was installed.
I've done a lot of searching of the Vanagon List archives for information
about similar loss of power problems, so realize the O2 sensor and ECU
issues are commonly involved in such situations, but would be most grateful
for any/all ideas or suggestions for other things to check. At this point
I'm more than willing to invest in a replacement O2 sensor and even (if it
seems indicated) a rebuilt ECU. However until something is found that
reasonably explains these random power loss events I'm very reluctant to
drive the van very far and certainly not into remote areas.
Many thanks (as always)!
-Wes
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