Date:         Thu, 1 Jun 2017 19:28:36 -0700
Reply-To:     Neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: 1.8t motor confirm my suspicions
Comments: To: Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca>
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> Really Neil? Andrew at flint motors says the bellhousing bolt pattern the
same. ......

I was thinking you'd also asked after the oil pan differences. I
was suggesting the AEB and AWP oil pan bolt patterns might be different. Or
are you suggesting that if the AWP and AEB both bolt up to the Diesel
Vanagon clurch housing, the diesel vanagon oil pan should bolt up to yhe
AWP?

If you used a KEP plate, Mullendore starter adaptor and a slightly lower HP
(smaller) starter on the WBX clutch housing, this might allow for an easier
future starter R&R ?




On Thursday, June 1, 2017, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:

Really Neil? Andrew at flint motors says the bellhousing bolt pattern the
> same. Don't have the 1.8t in my hands so I can't measure.
>
> Yeah, the diesel starter position is a bitch. It's a case of equal expense
> more or less to use adapter plate or get syncro diesel tank.
>
> Or... could I chop and weld the diesel bellhousing I have to clock the
> starter?
>
> I've seen it done years ago, but not sure if it worked. The bellhousing
> was on a shelf.
>
> Alistair
>
>
>
> On Jun 1, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','musomuso@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> Im not at home with my manuals but looking at images on line, it seems the
> AEB and AWP oil pans have a different bolt pattern; its my understanding
> that the diesel vanagon oil pan bolts up to the AEB 1.8t . I know a fellow
> on thesamba did a 50 degree AEB swap using some diesel parts.
>
> Wouldnt the diesel clutch housing would put the starter in the way of the
> syncro fuel tank? Or is this part of your daunted-ness?
>
> On Thursday, June 1, 2017, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','albell@shaw.ca');>> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm still dawdling about new engine for my syncro. To be honest the
>> adapter plate vs diesel bell housing ( and no doubt unobtainium in North
>> America syncro diesel fuel tank) has me a bit daunted.
>>
>> I have a couple of used motors in the shop, old 1.8 digifant and a 2.0
>> aba (also have a 2.5 subie core) . Was leaning heavily to the 2.0 rebuilt
>> and slightly modded. But recently I was given the option of a complete
>> Jetta with AWP ( I believe it's AWP ) 1.8t for a good price.
>>
>> I'd like conformation that the AWP engine bolt pattern is different than
>> the older I4 blocks and will not mount to diesel vanagon bellhousing. And
>> similarly, the diesel oil pan will not fit the AWP.
>>
>> Am I right?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Alistair
>>
>
>
> --
> Neil n
>
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