Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 00:12:30 -0400
Reply-To: George Gaudette <gcgaudette@GMAIL.COM>
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From: George Gaudette <gcgaudette@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: No Start & Sliding door handle'
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Laura. I just went through a no-start situation myself, and am not
mechanically experienced. The problem was the starter, and this video was
helpful in getting me familiar with the starter and how to access it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HkA1GYQnvY&t=258s
You can see the starter wire connection at the solenoid (that Jim and Jason
mentioned) at 4:10, when it gets pulled off. Point being that if you're
are willing and able to get under your van with a flashlight -- ** never
with the van supported by only a jack ** -- whether or not that wire fell
off is something you could check for free. You can see it without removing
stuff if you're patient looking for it. Just be careful what you touch,
live wires there.
I'm curious if you hear the fuel pump whiz when you turn the key to Start?
-George
'90 Westy Camper Automatic
I feel like mine could totally fall off at any moment!
On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Jason <uberhare@gmail.com> wrote:
> In usually give the crimp a bit of squeeze while I'm changing one if that
> wire is at all loose.
>
> Jason
> Uberbus
>
> On Jun 6, 2017 8:01 PM, "Jim Arnott" <jrasite@eoni.com> wrote:
>
> > “The dash is lighting up, when i turn the key, it doesn't even try to
> turn
> > over….”
> >
> > “New starter in March.”
> >
> > Me? I’d look first that the wire from the key switch is attached to the
> > solenoid. Mine has been known to fall off on occasion. Especially after
> > messing with it. “New starter in March.” indicates ‘messed with.'
> >
> > Handle - Get another one. There’s one small screw that holds the lock
> > cylinder. Remove it, exchange lock cylinders, replace it. All done.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jun 6, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > There can be a number of reasons for a "no crank" situation on any car.
> > Having a known good battery is the first place to "start"! Part of that
> is
> > to have a meter and know how to use it to test voltage at the battery and
> > other places while trying to crank it. From remote folks here can suggest
> > many different things to look at but without some knowledge and tools you
> > are simply replacing parts until it runs. So here are some places to
> start:
> > > Battery, to know it is good it needs to be load tested. A good auto
> > parts store may have one. Having 12 volts at rest does not mean it will
> > work when you ask it to produce 200 amps.
> > > Starter- it is common for the Bosch units to have bad brushes or
> > solenoids making them intermittent.
> > > Ignition switch and wiring. Many have added boost relays to get past
> > these problems. If automatic the neutral switch is also suspect.
> > > Battery and ground cables. They can look good and not be! Again,
> testing
> > under load.
> > > Horror of horrors! Something wrong with engine.
> > >
> > > Since it ran before it sat the battery is suspect and so is a used one.
> > Batteries don’t tolerate neglect and letting them discharge and go dead
> > especially in winter will destroy them. If new battery doesn’t do it then
> > consider you may have a bad starter. Was it installed at a shop?
> Warranty?
> > >
> > > Dennis
> > >
> > >
> > > Dennis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of Laura Mangan
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 4:35 PM
> > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > Subject: No Start & Sliding door handle'
> > >
> > > '85 1.9L Vanagon
> > > Potter Co. North Central PA
> > >
> > > Hi Folks,
> > >
> > > My van wont start....
> > >
> > > All was well when i last drove it (admittedly, almost a month ago) Now,
> > it wont start. I tried to jump start it, And no luck. took the battery to
> > NAPA, and turns out, one of the cells or something, is fried. Okay.
> > >
> > > So, i have another newish battery, i try that... No luck. Try to jump
> > start with the new battery. Nothing.
> > >
> > > So, i take the battery out, put it on a trickle charger to make sure
> its
> > charged. Yep. No luck, once again.
> > >
> > > The dash is lighting up, when i turn the key, it doesn't even try to
> > turn over....
> > >
> > > New starter in March.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts?
> > >
> > > Also..... My exterior sliding door handle broke off beyond the key
> hole.
> > > So, locking mechanism is functional, but i cannot open it from the
> > outside.
> > >
> > > Short of replacing the entire unit (and getting another key) what can i
> > do?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Hopeless and not even a slight bit mechanically inclined,
> > >
> > > Laura
> >
>
>
On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Jason <uberhare@gmail.com> wrote:
> In usually give the crimp a bit of squeeze while I'm changing one if that
> wire is at all loose.
>
> Jason
> Uberbus
>
> On Jun 6, 2017 8:01 PM, "Jim Arnott" <jrasite@eoni.com> wrote:
>
> > “The dash is lighting up, when i turn the key, it doesn't even try to
> turn
> > over….”
> >
> > “New starter in March.”
> >
> > Me? I’d look first that the wire from the key switch is attached to the
> > solenoid. Mine has been known to fall off on occasion. Especially after
> > messing with it. “New starter in March.” indicates ‘messed with.'
> >
> > Handle - Get another one. There’s one small screw that holds the lock
> > cylinder. Remove it, exchange lock cylinders, replace it. All done.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jun 6, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > There can be a number of reasons for a "no crank" situation on any car.
> > Having a known good battery is the first place to "start"! Part of that
> is
> > to have a meter and know how to use it to test voltage at the battery and
> > other places while trying to crank it. From remote folks here can suggest
> > many different things to look at but without some knowledge and tools you
> > are simply replacing parts until it runs. So here are some places to
> start:
> > > Battery, to know it is good it needs to be load tested. A good auto
> > parts store may have one. Having 12 volts at rest does not mean it will
> > work when you ask it to produce 200 amps.
> > > Starter- it is common for the Bosch units to have bad brushes or
> > solenoids making them intermittent.
> > > Ignition switch and wiring. Many have added boost relays to get past
> > these problems. If automatic the neutral switch is also suspect.
> > > Battery and ground cables. They can look good and not be! Again,
> testing
> > under load.
> > > Horror of horrors! Something wrong with engine.
> > >
> > > Since it ran before it sat the battery is suspect and so is a used one.
> > Batteries don’t tolerate neglect and letting them discharge and go dead
> > especially in winter will destroy them. If new battery doesn’t do it then
> > consider you may have a bad starter. Was it installed at a shop?
> Warranty?
> > >
> > > Dennis
> > >
> > >
> > > Dennis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of Laura Mangan
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 4:35 PM
> > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > Subject: No Start & Sliding door handle'
> > >
> > > '85 1.9L Vanagon
> > > Potter Co. North Central PA
> > >
> > > Hi Folks,
> > >
> > > My van wont start....
> > >
> > > All was well when i last drove it (admittedly, almost a month ago) Now,
> > it wont start. I tried to jump start it, And no luck. took the battery to
> > NAPA, and turns out, one of the cells or something, is fried. Okay.
> > >
> > > So, i have another newish battery, i try that... No luck. Try to jump
> > start with the new battery. Nothing.
> > >
> > > So, i take the battery out, put it on a trickle charger to make sure
> its
> > charged. Yep. No luck, once again.
> > >
> > > The dash is lighting up, when i turn the key, it doesn't even try to
> > turn over....
> > >
> > > New starter in March.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts?
> > >
> > > Also..... My exterior sliding door handle broke off beyond the key
> hole.
> > > So, locking mechanism is functional, but i cannot open it from the
> > outside.
> > >
> > > Short of replacing the entire unit (and getting another key) what can i
> > do?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Hopeless and not even a slight bit mechanically inclined,
> > >
> > > Laura
> >
>
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