Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 13:30:00 -0400
Reply-To: Laura Mangan <laurakmangan@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Laura Mangan <laurakmangan@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: No Start & Sliding door handle'
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Thanks George, I'll check it out.
Haven't had time yet. But I'll let you know how it goes.
On Jun 12, 2017 12:45 PM, "George Gaudette" <gcgaudette@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Laura,
>
> It came to my attention that the link I sent only worked temporarily.
> Here is the URL YouTube provides for sharing:
> https://youtu.be/9HkA1GYQnvY
> (title: "VW T3: Westfalia starter removal", posted by "Thomas EXOVCDS")
>
>
> Good luck!
>
> George
>
> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Laura Mangan <laurakmangan@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I will have to check this out! Thanks George. I do hear the fuel pump. I
> replaced the fuel pump in March also. (well, a stellar shop in Charlotte NC
> did)
> >
> > So, i am hearing buzzing (oil light) when i put the key in the ignition,
> the dash is illuminated, and when i turn the key over.... I hear the fuel
> pump whirl, but not even the slightest attempt at a crank (turning over)
> >
> > I'll crawl underneath when i have time and inspect the starter. hope all
> is okay under there (its brand new as of March)
> >
> > Many thanks!
> >
> > Laura
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 12:12 AM, George Gaudette <gcgaudette@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Laura. I just went through a no-start situation myself, and am not
> >> mechanically experienced. The problem was the starter, and this video
> was
> >> helpful in getting me familiar with the starter and how to access it:
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HkA1GYQnvY&t=258s
> >>
> >> You can see the starter wire connection at the solenoid (that Jim and
> Jason
> >> mentioned) at 4:10, when it gets pulled off. Point being that if you're
> >> are willing and able to get under your van with a flashlight -- ** never
> >> with the van supported by only a jack ** -- whether or not that wire
> fell
> >> off is something you could check for free. You can see it without
> removing
> >> stuff if you're patient looking for it. Just be careful what you touch,
> >> live wires there.
> >>
> >> I'm curious if you hear the fuel pump whiz when you turn the key to
> Start?
> >>
> >> -George
> >> '90 Westy Camper Automatic
> >>
> >> I feel like mine could totally fall off at any moment!
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Jason <uberhare@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > In usually give the crimp a bit of squeeze while I'm changing one if
> that
> >> > wire is at all loose.
> >> >
> >> > Jason
> >> > Uberbus
> >> >
> >> > On Jun 6, 2017 8:01 PM, "Jim Arnott" <jrasite@eoni.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > “The dash is lighting up, when i turn the key, it doesn't even try
> to
> >> > turn
> >> > > over….”
> >> > >
> >> > > “New starter in March.”
> >> > >
> >> > > Me? I’d look first that the wire from the key switch is attached to
> the
> >> > > solenoid. Mine has been known to fall off on occasion. Especially
> after
> >> > > messing with it. “New starter in March.” indicates ‘messed with.'
> >> > >
> >> > > Handle - Get another one. There’s one small screw that holds the
> lock
> >> > > cylinder. Remove it, exchange lock cylinders, replace it. All
> done.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > On Jun 6, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Dennis Haynes <
> d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > There can be a number of reasons for a "no crank" situation on
> any car.
> >> > > Having a known good battery is the first place to "start"! Part of
> that
> >> > is
> >> > > to have a meter and know how to use it to test voltage at the
> battery and
> >> > > other places while trying to crank it. From remote folks here can
> suggest
> >> > > many different things to look at but without some knowledge and
> tools you
> >> > > are simply replacing parts until it runs. So here are some places to
> >> > start:
> >> > > > Battery, to know it is good it needs to be load tested. A good
> auto
> >> > > parts store may have one. Having 12 volts at rest does not mean it
> will
> >> > > work when you ask it to produce 200 amps.
> >> > > > Starter- it is common for the Bosch units to have bad brushes or
> >> > > solenoids making them intermittent.
> >> > > > Ignition switch and wiring. Many have added boost relays to get
> past
> >> > > these problems. If automatic the neutral switch is also suspect.
> >> > > > Battery and ground cables. They can look good and not be! Again,
> >> > testing
> >> > > under load.
> >> > > > Horror of horrors! Something wrong with engine.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Since it ran before it sat the battery is suspect and so is a
> used one.
> >> > > Batteries don’t tolerate neglect and letting them discharge and go
> dead
> >> > > especially in winter will destroy them. If new battery doesn’t do
> it then
> >> > > consider you may have a bad starter. Was it installed at a shop?
> >> > Warranty?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Dennis
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Dennis
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> >> > Behalf
> >> > > Of Laura Mangan
> >> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 4:35 PM
> >> > > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >> > > > Subject: No Start & Sliding door handle'
> >> > > >
> >> > > > '85 1.9L Vanagon
> >> > > > Potter Co. North Central PA
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hi Folks,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > My van wont start....
> >> > > >
> >> > > > All was well when i last drove it (admittedly, almost a month
> ago) Now,
> >> > > it wont start. I tried to jump start it, And no luck. took the
> battery to
> >> > > NAPA, and turns out, one of the cells or something, is fried. Okay.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > So, i have another newish battery, i try that... No luck. Try to
> jump
> >> > > start with the new battery. Nothing.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > So, i take the battery out, put it on a trickle charger to make
> sure
> >> > its
> >> > > charged. Yep. No luck, once again.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The dash is lighting up, when i turn the key, it doesn't even try
> to
> >> > > turn over....
> >> > > >
> >> > > > New starter in March.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Any thoughts?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Also..... My exterior sliding door handle broke off beyond the key
> >> > hole.
> >> > > > So, locking mechanism is functional, but i cannot open it from the
> >> > > outside.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Short of replacing the entire unit (and getting another key) what
> can i
> >> > > do?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hopeless and not even a slight bit mechanically inclined,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Laura
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Jason <uberhare@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > In usually give the crimp a bit of squeeze while I'm changing one if
> that
> >> > wire is at all loose.
> >> >
> >> > Jason
> >> > Uberbus
> >> >
> >> > On Jun 6, 2017 8:01 PM, "Jim Arnott" <jrasite@eoni.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > “The dash is lighting up, when i turn the key, it doesn't even try
> to
> >> > turn
> >> > > over….”
> >> > >
> >> > > “New starter in March.”
> >> > >
> >> > > Me? I’d look first that the wire from the key switch is attached to
> the
> >> > > solenoid. Mine has been known to fall off on occasion. Especially
> after
> >> > > messing with it. “New starter in March.” indicates ‘messed with.'
> >> > >
> >> > > Handle - Get another one. There’s one small screw that holds the
> lock
> >> > > cylinder. Remove it, exchange lock cylinders, replace it. All
> done.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > On Jun 6, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Dennis Haynes <
> d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > There can be a number of reasons for a "no crank" situation on
> any car.
> >> > > Having a known good battery is the first place to "start"! Part of
> that
> >> > is
> >> > > to have a meter and know how to use it to test voltage at the
> battery and
> >> > > other places while trying to crank it. From remote folks here can
> suggest
> >> > > many different things to look at but without some knowledge and
> tools you
> >> > > are simply replacing parts until it runs. So here are some places to
> >> > start:
> >> > > > Battery, to know it is good it needs to be load tested. A good
> auto
> >> > > parts store may have one. Having 12 volts at rest does not mean it
> will
> >> > > work when you ask it to produce 200 amps.
> >> > > > Starter- it is common for the Bosch units to have bad brushes or
> >> > > solenoids making them intermittent.
> >> > > > Ignition switch and wiring. Many have added boost relays to get
> past
> >> > > these problems. If automatic the neutral switch is also suspect.
> >> > > > Battery and ground cables. They can look good and not be! Again,
> >> > testing
> >> > > under load.
> >> > > > Horror of horrors! Something wrong with engine.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Since it ran before it sat the battery is suspect and so is a
> used one.
> >> > > Batteries don’t tolerate neglect and letting them discharge and go
> dead
> >> > > especially in winter will destroy them. If new battery doesn’t do
> it then
> >> > > consider you may have a bad starter. Was it installed at a shop?
> >> > Warranty?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Dennis
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Dennis
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> >> > Behalf
> >> > > Of Laura Mangan
> >> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 4:35 PM
> >> > > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >> > > > Subject: No Start & Sliding door handle'
> >> > > >
> >> > > > '85 1.9L Vanagon
> >> > > > Potter Co. North Central PA
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hi Folks,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > My van wont start....
> >> > > >
> >> > > > All was well when i last drove it (admittedly, almost a month
> ago) Now,
> >> > > it wont start. I tried to jump start it, And no luck. took the
> battery to
> >> > > NAPA, and turns out, one of the cells or something, is fried. Okay.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > So, i have another newish battery, i try that... No luck. Try to
> jump
> >> > > start with the new battery. Nothing.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > So, i take the battery out, put it on a trickle charger to make
> sure
> >> > its
> >> > > charged. Yep. No luck, once again.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The dash is lighting up, when i turn the key, it doesn't even try
> to
> >> > > turn over....
> >> > > >
> >> > > > New starter in March.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Any thoughts?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Also..... My exterior sliding door handle broke off beyond the key
> >> > hole.
> >> > > > So, locking mechanism is functional, but i cannot open it from the
> >> > > outside.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Short of replacing the entire unit (and getting another key) what
> can i
> >> > > do?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hopeless and not even a slight bit mechanically inclined,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Laura
> >> > >
> >> >
> >
> >
>
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