Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 15:45:38 -0700
Reply-To: Stacy Schneider <vwcrewman@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Stacy Schneider <vwcrewman@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: vent wing frame removal
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On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 3:20 PM, John Goubeaux <jlgoubeaux59@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thanks Stace,
>
> Your notes on the steps are very accurate, as I just finished removing one
> side's door seals, window, wing vent glass, and frame in preparation for a
> paint job.
>
> The wing vent frame is intact but has a fair amount of rust and one of the
> frame's connectors, where it is fastened to the straight bar, has come
> undone.
> It's not a rivet but some sort of pressed pin where it connects.
>
> As with many parts with these old Vans, I'm weighing the pros and cons of
> cleaning up, painting, and reusing this old wing vent frames to getting
> another one altogether, new or used.
>
> I did though see that the Bus Depot has new ones:
> http://www.busdepot.com/251837406
>
> Has anyone gone this route ? I ask b/c sometimes new replacement parts are
> of poor quality and don't always fit.
> I'm also aware that putting a lot of work into reassembly only to find
> that things don't fit, or in this case leaks and poor window closure is
> disappointing and
> then one sees the value of spending the money on new or at least better
> conditioned parts.
>
> -john
>
>
>
> On 7/20/2017 2:30 PM, Stacy Schneider wrote:
>
>> Pull the upper top and back channel out, pull the inner and outer
>> scrapers off( the area where your arm rests) there are clips inside the
>> door which hold the scraper, at the front next to vent pull the 2 nearest
>> the vent out as you will need the room. At the top of the door above the
>> vent is a small Phillips sheet metal screw, remove it.
>> Pull the door panel and locate the 2 bolts that hold the door glass
>> to the regulator and remove them. There is a sweet spot in the door where
>> the door glass will lift out. It involves lifting the front and tilting the
>> rear. Take the door glass out ( You can not take the vent out with the door
>> glass in place) .
>> There is a single 10mm bolt at the face of the door which holds
>> the lower part of the vent, remove that, grab a hold of the assembly and
>> tilt it backwards and manipulate it out of the door. I should have asked if
>> this is an early van with Chrome in the doors, if so you have to remove the
>> rubber lip which locks into the trim before you remove.
>> As the English service manuals say " install is the reverse of
>> the above procedure.
>>
>> Stacy
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 20, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Thomas Casal <thomas.casal@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>
>>> The entire assembly. The unbent frame the body shop installed is working
>>> perfect I'm so mad I didn't have my used parts guy ship me a straight one
>>> asap. This van is full of lessons.
>>>
>>> On Jul 20, 2017 3:57 PM, "Marc Perdue" <mcperdue@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ugh, it's a pain. I tried to use Stacy Schneider's method on mine, with
>>>> vent glass installed. Not sure how to describe it at this point though,
>>>> nor
>>>> that I would. Mine leak and my windows don't go up and down easily; they
>>>> start up at an angle, I pull them straight by hand, then continue
>>>> rolling
>>>> them up.
>>>>
>>>> Marc Perdue
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Thomas Casal <thomas.casal@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Good People,
>>>>>
>>>>> I had my van painted and I purchased better used vent wing frames that
>>>>> the
>>>>> body shop installed. One of the wings was slightly bent in shipping I
>>>>> figured it would still work if the holes lined up and they did but now
>>>>> the
>>>>> wing doesn't seal properly its hard to roll the window up and it leaks
>>>>> when
>>>>> it rains. So I have another wing coming and I'm fairly mechanical.
>>>>> All
>>>>> the information I've found online nobody actually removed the vent
>>>>> wing.
>>>>> Does anyone know the proper procedure to remove the vent wing? Thanks
>>>>> for
>>>>> any and all advice. peace tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>
So this is timely. I am pulling a Double cab apart for paint
for a customer. I pulled the vent frames out and they crumpled in my hand.
We are going to go with good used assemblies, as I know they will work. As
these vans age this is going to be a real issue and we are going to need to
try and make these new parts work as there may be no other choices.
Stacy
1989 Swedish Tristar with Aluminum gates and Atiwe 16" Wheels.
Oldest son is an Eagle scout.
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