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Date:         Tue, 1 Aug 2017 01:35:30 +0000
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What can go wrong..... (followup and short trip report)
Comments: To: David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <CACvdLxMp-CuoD3dP5YxbiTOCSAht2SCW4Aw_=cQXEQ6f_w9=Tg@mail.gmail.com>
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