Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 18:50:38 -0700
Reply-To: Stacy Schneider <vwcrewman@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Stacy Schneider <vwcrewman@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Power window switch relocation
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Yes the switches are simple. Getting them back together is not. Try some
Grease or Vaseline at the bottom where they pivot. I've found the best way
to get them back together , which works 75% of the time is put them in a
vise length wise and just clamp it down until it starts to distort the
sides. Then press the rocker in and gently open the vise. The other trick
I've learned is to lightly taper the pins on the rocker at the bottom where
they go into the housing as it will make them kind of click in.
They are a bear to get back together. I have literally a Bin oft them
and just buy new switches.
Stacy
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Raimund Feussner <ray@v6bus.de> wrote:
> Oh my god.
>
> The switches are so f*cking easy to understand and clean.
>
> But getting them re-assembled...that´s a day´s work trying all over again,
>
> I hear you
> Raimund
>
>
>
> Am 29.08.2017 um 19:29 schrieb Larry Alofs:
>
>> Sometimes the contacts in the switches get corroded and they can be
>> polished and relubricated. Reassembling those switches is VERY
>> challenging. If one half is in a vise and the other is clamped in a large
>> pair of visegrips, I can sometimes get it to go together straight enough,
>> but not usually.
>> The last time I faced this task I got so frustrated that I invented a
>> way
>> to use a switch from an old Subaru donor car. Electrically it was the
>> same, but it took a little inovation and JB weld to mount it in the bezel.
>>
>> Larry A.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Toomey Douglas <drt@uoregon.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Raimund,
>>>
>>> I had an old switch lying around and decided to look inside. Easy to get
>>> apart and the grease was pretty dry, making it stiff. However, I took
>>> out
>>> the two sort of W-shaped actuators and getting those back in so that they
>>> are not sideways is causing me problems. The switches are pretty simple,
>>> except for that…
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Aug 27, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Raimund Feussner <ray@V6BUS.DE> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The wires breaking in the door jam is a true mess.
>>>>
>>>> However,
>>>>
>>>> I often realized that the switch itself is the culprit.
>>>> Hardened and rotten grease inside raises resistance, even if the wiring
>>>> is okay´ish.
>>>>
>>>> I replaced my switches just a couple of days ago, with VW Polo switches
>>>> (red lit, otherwise almost the same) from 2010. Also available green-lit
>>>> before 2010.
>>>> 6K* or 6N* or 191* part numbers (yes, Golf2).
>>>>
>>>> Windows run almost perfectly!
>>>>
>>>> You US guys probably will have troubles finding these switches though.
>>>>
>>>> The UK "brickwerks" switches (and other vendors) sell China-Quantum
>>>> switches brandnew. They need a little resoldering of the rear wires, but
>>>> work fine.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Raimund
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 27.08.2017 um 20:07 schrieb Stacy Schneider:
>>>>
>>>>> Because the stock wiring is a mess and if you are not really careful it
>>>>> ends up being caught in the mechanism as well as the wires break in the
>>>>> door jam.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Stacy
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 10:44 AM, David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Why would people wish to relocate them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yrs,
>>>>>> d
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Stacy Schneider <vwcrewman@gmail.com
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any where you put them other then the door panel is
>>>>>>> uncomfortable. I always advise that you double up some masking tape
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> and put
>>>
>>>> it on the dash where you intend to out the switches
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>> 1989 Swedish Tristar with Aluminum gates and Atiwe 16" Wheels.
>>>>> Oldest son is an Eagle scout.
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________
>>> Prof. Douglas Toomey
>>> 1272 Earth Sciences
>>> University of Oregon
>>> Eugene, OR 97403-1272
>>>
>>> https://blogs.uoregon.edu/dougtoomey/
>>> http://geophysics.uoregon.edu
>>> (541) 346 5576 (tel)
>>> (541) 346 4692 (fax)
>>> ________________________
>>>
>>>
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1989 Swedish Tristar with Aluminum gates and Atiwe 16" Wheels.
Oldest son is an Eagle scout.
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