Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 12:19:12 +0000
Reply-To: Jared Planter <jaredplanter@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jared Planter <jaredplanter@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Suspension issue
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Dennis,
Thanks for the response. Our tire size is 215/70-16
On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 21:54 Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Besides having 16 inch wheels what size tires do you have on them. It
> looks like you have way too much tire on there and those clip on mud flaps
> just make things worse. Having lift springs is a nice idea but unless you
> have also modified the suspension stops, (lower limit) or modified the
> wheel arches you didn’t change the maximum tire diameter that will work. 27
> inches is a very tight fit and those wheels with the 23mm offset aren’t the
> most helpful. In addition the GVW for the 2WD is about 5,200 pounds. You
> are nearing 500 pounds overweight. As for height 19 inch hub to fender
> clearance is pushing Syncro territory. It would be a bit much for 2WD
> unless you also have longer shocks and by then the front geometry is
> getting out of whack, especially the angle of the radius rods. At that much
> lift you will probably destroy the radius rod mounts and it will nose dive
> under braking. 215/65-16 (27.2"), is an ideal tire size limit with just a
> modest change to the bump stop to keep the tire clear of the body.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of Jared Planter
> Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 11:48 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Suspension issue
>
> Hey all,
>
> My friends/mechanics and I are troubleshooting a strange issue and I
> thought I'd reach out to see if any of you have any insight.
>
> Last summer we upgraded from 14" tires/wheels to 16" with the GoWesty 1.5"
> lift springs and Bilstein high performance shocks and replaced our tie rod
> ends and control arms. About 6 months after the work we started hearing our
> tires rub on something when we lean into one side while turning. Over time
> this got worse and we finally observed it happening, during a turn the tire
> rubs on the mudflap screw or the the fender lip would be resting on the
> tire resulting in the lip grabbing and cutting the tire. This happens on
> rough roads and even on some deep driveways at gas stations, etc.
>
> Pictures and video: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0LJtdOXmSAE5Q
>
> More information:
> - 1987 full camper
>
> - Center of wheel hub to fender lip is 17" all around, should be 19"
> according to GoWesty
>
> - Total weight (fully loaded with us in it) is 5700
> - Front axle: 2750lbs
> - Rear axle: 2950lbs
>
> I'm spending the day at the shop on Sept. 17th to see what's going on.
> There's no obvious sign of collapsed springs or anything else upon a basic
> inspection but we hope to find a smoking gun in the shop.
>
> I would love to hear your thoughts and especially any similar experiences
> any of you may have had.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jared
>
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