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Date:         Mon, 2 Oct 2017 23:49:01 +0000
Reply-To:     moritz schmid <schmidm90@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         moritz schmid <schmidm90@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: General tool (brand name vs quality vs price) question. (NVC)
Comments: To: David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <CACvdLxM+_XQqFDi6eesqgGndO4UTkRLnG0TO-hiSMp7PUQwnzA@mail.gmail.com>
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My two cents on the subject

I have always owned old vehicles that usually will need a road side repair at one point or another usually means each one has a set of tools in it. I have been buying mainly harbor freight or husky or craftsman for those. If they get rusty or I leave them on the side of the road I don’t feel bad.

My garage is a different story. I started out with an old craftsman set and slowly as they break or get damaged I have been replacing them with a more professional set (snap on/Matco) mainly from yard sales etc.

Having tools that will get the job done when it’s cold and raining is important but the nice ones stay in the garage for the big projects. I agree the price for most of those new tools is extremely expensive but when your working on a really tough project the attention to detail in professional tools is incredible (grips, ergonomics, precision).

A decent set of tools are not bought all at once but acquired over a lifetime along with the skills to use them properly.

On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 7:41 PM David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com> wrote:

> I was in a Harbor Freight recently. There were tools that were incredibly > cheap (price-wise). Professionals were thick in the place, buying much > stuff. I observed to a couple of them that the prices were amazingly low, > and that I expected the quality was similar. I was told by both that the > stuff was good, but I don't know ....... . > > On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > Craftsman Tools was bought by Stanley in just the last year or so. I have > > not used Kobalt, available at Lowe's, but they look good. > > > > Stephen > > > > Mobile > > > > > On Oct 2, 2017, at 5:09 PM, David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM> > > wrote: > > > > > > So, for a number of years Craftsman has been in Ace Hardware. In fact, > > > last week. I assumed they were not the same as the Craftsman tools > from > > > that giant department store chain that is not yet resting comfortably > in > > > peace. So, is Ace now just selling remnants from whomever last built > > them? > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Craftsman tools are no more. They sold the line out. > > >> > > >> Dennis > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On > Behalf > > >> Of Neil N > > >> Sent: Monday, October 2, 2017 1:50 PM > > >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > >> Subject: Re: General tool (brand name vs quality vs price) question. > > (NVC) > > >> > > >> I've been using Craftsman tools (combo wrenches, sockets-ratchets, > > >> screwdrivers) for decades. The only issues I had was a cracked 19mm 12 > > pt > > >> 1/2" socket cracking, due to misuse, (no, you shouldn't use it on a VW > > tire > > >> bolt. That was many years ago!) and one or two failed 3/8" > > >> ratchet mechanisms. I think I've been getting incredible value from > > these > > >> tools. They were purchased many years ago though. Who knows if/how > metal > > >> content used in these tools has changed over the years? > > >> > > >> Neil. > > >> > > >>> On 10/2/17, TJ Hemrick <x53gunner@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> With the vultures circling for the eventual death knell to > > >>> Sears//Craftsman, .......... > > >> > > >>> With all that being said, for you guys who turn wrenches several > > >>> times a week, what are you using/recommending? > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Neil n > > >> > > >> Blog: Vanagons, Westfalia, general <http://tubaneil.blogspot.ca> > > >> > > >> 1988 Westy Images <https://picasaweb.google.com/musomuso/New1988Westy > > > > >> > > >> 1981 Westfalia "Jaco" Images, technical <http://tubaneil.googlepages. > > com/> > > >> > > >> Vanagon-Bus VAG Gas Engine Swap Group <http://tinyurl.com/khalbay> > > >> > > > > . > > >


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