Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2017 14:52:25 -0400
Reply-To: Karl Ploessl <karl.ploessl@GMAIL.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Karl Ploessl <karl.ploessl@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: last tire question (from me)(14x6 VW alu wheel)
In-Reply-To: <CY4PR20MB1303AB4282BCFFCD7FF5F1A0A04F0@CY4PR20MB1303.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
so finally got my tires mounted. Decided to go with Hankook RA18 195R-14C
(Vredestein Comtrac All Season are not available anymore and new production
might be in spring 2018). Got Carat wheels (VW 14 x 6) used and thought all
is well. BUT no. Turns out that the lips of the grease caps on the front
did not clear the hub of the wheels (that's on AC '81). Oh well. Shop
grounded the lips down and could mount them. So altogether: $440.00 for
tires, $100 + $80.00 for shipping for rims, centercaps (4X $16.95), $83 for
mounting etc and $220.00 for grinding lips (labor). A grand total of
$990.80. Expensive endeavour. Looking back maybe 15 inch would have been
better? But my Agilis 61 lasted 15 years and they had bad cracks now
(looked scary after I discovered them).
Karl.
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 12:14 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Some things based on knowledge and experiences. Especially when it comes
> to tire applications and designs. Particularly with front heavy and front
> wheel drive vehicles the "wisdom" was the better tires go on the front.
> Depending on circumstances there can be some advantages. Usually though the
> idea was put the better tires up front since they will usually wear faster.
> Lets' face it, is we start off with a new set and we do regular rotations,
> at the first rotation the worn more front tires will go on the back. Part
> of the concept with proper rotation is to keep the wear difference to a
> point that it is negligible.
>
> The change with putting the better tires on the rear has more to do with
> sudden loss of traction then emergency maneuvers. Hydroplaning or
> unexpected loss of rear control at speeds will often result in a spin out
> which at high speeds on congested roads often means a multicar wreck. As
> for emergency maneuvers or "handling" characteristics things have already
> gone wrong at the point this is used and usually the root cause is someone
> doing something really wrong or losing control.
>
> Many states have added tire replacements to the law books. The rules can
> get a little complicated. Some consider remaining tread depth and the
> difference in depth between the oil and new tire pair. While not likely
> that anyone will inspect your tires and take you out of service, in the
> event of a serious accident one should expect that all vehicles involved
> will be impounded and investigated for their role in the event.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of Karl Ploessl
> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 7:54 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: last tire question (from me)(14x6 VW alu wheel)
>
> interesting. Just browsing my Bentley 80 - 91/Vehicle Care, page 18: "The
> tires with the deepest tread should always be mounted on the front tires".
>
> Karl.
>
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Dug Smith <dug@dugbert.com> wrote:
>
> > Really? I've always been told new tyres should go on the rear.
> >
> > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> > tirerack.com%2Ftires%2Ftiretech%2Ftechpage.jsp%3Ftechid%3D52&data=02%7
> > C01%7Csnuggle.pants%40HOTMAIL.COM%7Cd5271bb0394948ada7f808d51427fa34%7
> > C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636437084289415183&sdata=o
> > %2BpHkaQZk6HNFYOlP0SsKw8HyPbLuWjJ6XHJqjMw1O4%3D&reserved=0
> >
> > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fkumho
> > tyre.co.uk%2Fkumho-news%2Fshould-you-fit-new-tyres-t&data=02%7C01%7Csn
> > uggle.pants%40HOTMAIL.COM%7Cd5271bb0394948ada7f808d51427fa34%7C84df9e7
> > fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636437084289415183&sdata=MON0ws2R0
> > ae8Y0%2FDtElyOkWS0PPoK1cRE9kxFtRf8sU%3D&reserved=0
> > o-the-front-or-rear/
> >
> > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.p
> > opularmechanics.com%2Fcars%2Fhow-to%2Fa3121%2F6-common-&data=02%7C01%7
> > Csnuggle.pants%40HOTMAIL.COM%7Cd5271bb0394948ada7f808d51427fa34%7C84df
> > 9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636437084289415183&sdata=oVOZcs
> > i3ER95rnSAjIUEmxrmVA3XywgymgIc0sf8BEY%3D&reserved=0
> > tire-myths-debunked-10031440/
> >
> >
> > On Thu 10/12 2017 08:59, David McNeely wrote:
> >
> >> Every recommendation I read from tire manufacturers, sellers,
> >> independent agencies, government agencies, says that if you run one
> >> older pair and one newer pair of tires, the newer pair (or the pair
> >> with the most tread, actually), should be on the front. Is there a
> >> particular reason you are doing the opposite?
> >>
> >> Back in the day, I was taught to do like you. The reasoning was that
> >> the greater stopping power being on the rear prevented the rear
> >> overrunning the front when in an emergency stop. But the
> >> recommendations I read now say that empirical evidence is that in
> >> serious accidents, poorer tires on the front is often the cause.
> >>
> >> I'm not saying this as an expert. I'm just repeating what I get from
> >> those who claim to be.
> >>
> > toodle pip,
> > --
> > Dug Smith | Terry Pratchett: It's almost
> > (mailto:dug@dugbert.com) | impossible to ride a rock and roll
> > (https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dugbert.com&data=02%7C01%7Csnuggle.pants%40HOTMAIL.COM%
> 7Cd5271bb0394948ada7f808d51427fa34%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa
> aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636437084289415183&sdata=3qRk6%2F6ehGcdfMD20aGoEdn9%
> 2BoiucJvgZrQmzZDcnjU%3D&reserved=0) | motorbike and stay on for three
> verses.
> >
>
|