Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2017 07:52:48 -0700
Reply-To: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Shift but no go - Update - CV bolts go wheeeeeeeeee!
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Here's an idea for avoiding this kind of stuff...
I keep a roll of survey tape with my tools. Whenever I loosen some
parts, I tie a bow on my steering wheel and I don't remove it till I've
double-checked everything I undid...
This is a way to avoid forgetting things due to interruptions and
distractions.. I "remind" myself, when I remove the bow, to review whatever
I've done...
On Oct 28, 2017 7:12 AM, "Dennis Haynes" <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
> They came loose from a combination of re-used hardware and not being
> properly torqued. They need 32 ft. lbs. and the bolts need to be P.C. 12.9.
> The reason the one bolt broke is that it was the last to hold on as they
> all loosened. You need to check the flange threads to see if the holes were
> damaged, usually they will get opened up. If so they may loosen again.
> Proper hardware including the Schnoor washers and properly torqued these do
> not need Loctite. Loctite is a challenge since you will have grease getting
> on everything here.
>
> BTW, did you use a torque wrench on the flange nut? That is another common
> failure point? And how about the lug nuts/bolts?
>
> Dennis
>
>
> From: Dave Bohannan [mailto:fjazzbass@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 9:40 AM
> To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: RE: Shift but no go - Update - CV bolts go wheeeeeeeeee!
>
> Thanks, so much, Dennis, for the pointers on where to start- and you were
> right on the money…
>
> A couple things…. I had just recently done rear wheel bearings- since I
> cannot remember if this is the side I took loose or not, but it is
> completely detached- did I only thread one bolt in? because that’s all
> that’s broken- 1 bolt…and it wasn’t even threaded any longer…
>
> I disconnected the transaxle side and out came the whole axle- all 6 bolts
> came out but one was snapped- Do these need Loctite?
>
> I’ll be out and about looking for hardware today- I can not believe it was
> something so simple- and honestly, it just must have been my hurried “slap
> it back together” mentality- I honestly don’t even remember how I torqued
> it down…
>
> Hope everyone has as good of a Saturday as I’m having…
>
> Dave
>
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> From: Dennis Haynes<mailto:d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 9:21 PM
> To: David Bohannan<mailto:fjazzbass@GMAIL.COM>; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM<
> mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Subject: RE: Shift but no go
>
> Of the fast with no warning failures the usual suspects are the CV joints
> or an axle, the clutch disc center hub, and the input to main shaft
> coupling. Since you are getting knocking I would look at the CV
> joints/axles first.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of David Bohannan
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 5:00 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM<mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Subject: Shift but no go
>
> So it sounded like something “let go” power then nada and got a bit of a
> knocking noise when trying to get into gear.... anyone? Clutch feels fine-
> shift feels firm- but did a shaft break in there or something?!? Help!
>
> Dave
> 85 manual schtuck
>
>
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