Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 22:37:23 -0400
Reply-To: Eric Caron <ecaron1@COMCAST.NET>
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From: Eric Caron <ecaron1@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Vanagon weights
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Hi Dennis and others,
I have the air lift bags in my rear springs. I know now from this conversation that they may do more harm then good by putting weight unevenly on the front tires or putting excessive weight on the front.
Still. I must admit I liked having the bus sit really level by adding about5 extra pounds on the drivers side. and the van sits level, front to back, with about 40 pounds of pressure in both the air lift bags, and, with just a little air going in and out, and my talking tape measure I can match the hight unscientifically from top of tire to wheel well for the rear tires.
I think I fell into the trap Dennis was speaking of, wanting to remove the rear sag and possibly doing more harm then good.
I’m sure mechanically wrong, but it was satisfying before this conversation!
My van could be used, with the rear air bags, to see what happens on scales as the air bags raise or lower either rear corner. of a typical 2 wheel drive camper.
I probably don’t want to know what I’ve done.
Eric
> On Oct 30, 2017, at 9:44 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> I've seen this before. It is fairly common to get axle weights from truck scales or even going to recyclers, landfills, etc. What drove me to get the scale set is to get the individual weights mostly to demonstrate the desire to lift one corner to address a perceived sag is not a good idea.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of kenneth wilford (Van-Again)
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 5:08 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Vanagon weights
>
> Dennis, just found this:
> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.roadhaus.com%2Ftires%2Fload.html&data=02%7C01%7Csnuggle.pants%40HOTMAIL.COM%7C170480c4c08645371b2208d51fda4fb6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636449944875361705&sdata=xvDHf1BY%2Fwcm%2FjLGgueEyYPNObd8hJbaY7PndJorMSY%3D&reserved=0
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> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:03 PM, kenneth wilford (Van-Again) < kenwilfy@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Dennis, this is very interesting to me. Maybe you could start making
>> up charts of real empty weights of Vanagon campers, and then the
>> figure out how much usable weight is left over for people and stuff?
>> This would be helpful to see if they are overloading their vans.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> since I don't use tires type/size mentioned on the door jam, I use my
>>> rule of thumb
>>>
>>> max. pressure on the side wall minus 8psi for the FRONT
>>>
>>> max. pressure on the side wall minus 4psi for the REAR
>>>
>>> tintop Syncro - General Grabber AT2 27x8.5 LT14 - FRONT: 50-8=42psi
>>> /
>>> REAR: 50-4=46psi
>>>
>>> if the van is heavy loaded I add 1 more psi to all tires. Really
>>> empty (driver + passenger only) I subtract 2 more psi to all tires. I
>>> never put in the max on the side wall, always leave some room for expansion.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Ken Wilford
>> John 3:16
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> --
> Thanks,
> Ken Wilford
> John 3:16
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