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Date:         Sat, 6 Jan 2018 20:00:22 -0600
Reply-To:     Ralph Meyermann <ralphmeyermann@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Ralph Meyermann <ralphmeyermann@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Clamshell toolbox
Comments: To: Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@nbnet.nb.ca>
In-Reply-To:  <D566083B-D507-4422-9883-81015F5A27C0@NBNet.nb.ca>
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Can't get away from baby necessities.

On Jan 6, 2018 7:59 PM, "Roy Nicholl" <RNicholl@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

> Many years ago when my wife first travelled in the ’66 Westy (even less > space), she packed 3-bags of stuff … I asked her to pick one, then put the > other two back in the apartment. From that point forward only one bag was > ever packed for a trip …. until there was a baby :-| > > > On 06-Jan-2018, at 21:51, Ralph Meyermann <ralphmeyermann@GMAIL.COM> > wrote: > > > > I just found it was handy having the ability to store some tools/jack, > > small spare parts in the clamshell area rather than taking up needed > space > > taking a 12yr old girl and the GF on a 12 day trip. Why do they have to > > pack so much unnecessary stuff! 3 pillows and 2 pillows, multiple > > bags...... Keep it simple/minimal ladies ;-) > > > > On Jan 6, 2018 6:48 PM, "Alistair Bell" <albell@shaw.ca> wrote: > > > >> Hey Stuart, > >> > >> I know the vid, and have read a fair bit on the vanagon chassis > structure > >> and the built in crash absorption ( you know what I mean ) design. > >> > >> I believe also that some 16” Syncros had a different front carrier where > >> the spare tire usually is and that vw did make a rear mounted tire > carrier. > >> Those facts and the lack of warnings in the owner’s manual about having > a > >> spare in the front carrier at all times leads me to believe the spare up > >> front is not a designed part of the crash structure. > >> > >> But I’m still keeping open mind, I’d like to hear about any vw produced > >> data stating the spare is needed in place up front. > >> > >> Alistair > >> > >> > >> > >>> On Jan 6, 2018, at 4:37 PM, <stuartmacm@gmail.com> < > stuartmacm@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> I think the spare tire idea came from this crash test video. See 1:20: > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO_AfCFQR2M This video explains the > >> front absorption zone structure and the reinforcing in the front and in > the > >> doors, and doesn't show a spare tire. The Vanagon is pretty safe, except > >> for the lack of an air bag. Also see 1:20: > https://www.youtube.com/watch? > >> v=Iwa9vdq8dvw > >>> > >>> Stuart > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On > Behalf > >> Of Alistair Bell > >>> Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 1:58 PM > >>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >>> Subject: Re: Clamshell toolbox > >>> > >>> I have to think that it doesn’t have any real effect on crash > >> worthiness. It seems like poor design by vw to have a removable item > being > >> important to crash protection. > >>> > >>> Poor design is an understatement, the legal liability issue is obvious. > >>> > >>> Alistair > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Jan 6, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Ralph Meyermann <ralphmeyermann@gmail.com > > > >> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I figure a tool box filled with tools is better than no tire at all. > >> Safer that a propane tank I'd think. > >>>> > >>>>> On Jan 6, 2018 3:26 PM, "Alistair Bell" <albell@shaw.ca> wrote: > >>>>> You have any documentation backing this up? It’s interesting subject, > >> perhaps the owners manual has big warnings in it saying that spare > must be > >> in place all the time? > >>>>> > >>>>> Haven’t seen those warnings but maybe you have. Not being snarky, I > >> truly would like to see the documentation. > >>>>> > >>>>> Alistair > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Jan 6, 2018, at 12:34 PM, Stacy Schneider <vwcrewman@GMAIL.COM> > >> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I would not drive a van without a spare tire up front. The tire is > >> part of the crash worthiness of these vans. > >>>>>> I want all the protection I can get. Even if you have a rear mounted > >> tire you can always leave the stock wheel in place. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Stacy > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2018, at 11:13 AM, Ralph Meyermann < > >> ralphmeyermann@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> No pics yet, I have some of my original adapted one. The refined > >>>>>>> version should be lighter/cleaner looking and seal out the > >>>>>>> elements better. Weight depends on how much tools/parts you cram > >>>>>>> inside. Mine got kinda heavy for the 12day 3k mile West coast trip > >> and back. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2018 1:09 PM, "Chris S" <szpejankowski@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I like the idea. Extra diesel fuel tank? My thought is that > >>>>>>>> anything heavy in spare tire cavity will be difficult to close. > Got > >> pics? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Chris > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Wiadomość napisana przez Ralph Meyermann > >>>>>>>>> <ralphmeyermann@GMAIL.COM> w > >>>>>>>> dniu 06.01.2018, o godz. 10:34: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Howdy Volks. After going with a rear spare tire carrier, I was > >>>>>>>>> pondering what to do with that available space. I ended up > >>>>>>>>> adapting my home made larger clamshell/tire carrier into a > >> toolbox. I found it handy. > >>>>>>>> Currently I > >>>>>>>>> took it to my machine/Fab shop guys to make a refined > >> design/prototype. > >>>>>>>>> Roughly 27"x 27" the front of it has 45° angles on the sides and > >> 7" > >>>>>>>> tall. > >>>>>>>>> The first quote was $211. I went downs and verified a few > >>>>>>>>> design aspects including a better sealing surface for the lid and > >> how it fastens down. > >>>>>>>> The > >>>>>>>>> first one/prototype is currently being built. Looking at > >>>>>>>>> $211-$250 final cost from machine shop, I don't know what > >>>>>>>>> shipping or anything could be yet. Hopefully It'll be what I > >>>>>>>>> envision and be able to have them > >>>>>>>> available > >>>>>>>>> for those with alternative spare tire carriers. Storage is worth > >>>>>>>>> it's weight in gold, Westy or tin top. > >>>>>>>> > >>> > >> > >


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