VANAGON archives -- April 2018, week 4 (#57)

Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 19:46:40 +0000 Reply-To: Poppie Jagersand <poppie.jagersand@YAHOO.CA> Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> From: Poppie Jagersand <poppie.jagersand@YAHOO.CA> Subject: Diesel Vanagon battery tray fits BCI 41,34,78, some 27, what others? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

The battery tray in the Diesel Vanagon is a fair bit bigger than the BCI group 41 battery that is specified. Over the years I have used various other batteries BCI group 41,34,78, some 27.

Has anyone fit a group 65? It's a bit wider, so may interfere with the mounting. For decent value batteries in Canada I have checked Canadian Tire and Walmart. Any other suggestions for sizes and sources?

A 34 is a bit taller, but clears the engine lid if at the forward end of the battery tray. A cover on the + terminal is a good idea. Does not clamp as well w. original bottom clamp. A 78 has side terminals, so not the above terminal issue. There's also combination 34/78 34/78 typically has 800 CCA or more compared to the 600 for a group 41. Also a bit more reserve capacity.

Group 27 batteries seems to be the largest that fit the width and length. Height can be tricky. Depending on how the terminals are arranged these may fit or may not. The past decade I used a Canadian Tire Motomaster group 27 marine battery. This had 800 MCA, and 100Ah. That's twice the Ah of a regular starting battery. For marine use these are designed for both starting and house battery needs. This worked well in the Westy camper also. The extra capacity was also handy in a trip wyhen the alternator failed, and we had to wait 2 days for a replacement.

Now when I wanted to replace it I noticed the new model has much taller terminals molded into a palstic block that sticks out, so it won't fit. Therefore I'm looking for other alternatives. Therefore I was looking for other alternatives.

I was also wondering about the relative value of "premium" vs regular batteries. While a premium battery might be a little bit better than a regular, I was thinking most of the additional premium price goes not into the battery quality but to the longer warranty, roadside assistance and other perks. I was just considering flooded cells, not AGM.

Heres a listing what I found on the Canadian Tire and Walmart Canadian web sites:

The very high reserve capacity of the "Certified" group 65: 130min might be a misprint? Similarly the low

Walmart batteries are apparently made by Johnson Controls. Some Canadian Tire Motomaster are Excide. Any one knows about the Certified?

http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/battery-charts/automotive-battery-chart.html clickable link BCI GROUP SIZE PART NUMBER VOLTS COLD CRANKING AMPS AT -18°C CRANKING AMPS AT 0°C RESERVE CAPACITY MIN AT 25A Ah CAPACITY (20hr) LENGTH (in) WIDTH (in) HEIGHT (in) TERMINAL TYPE

Certified: 1yy replacement 34/78 or 65: $119 group part 34/78DT 010-3472 > 12 690 850 110 -- 10-3/4 6-7/8 8 65 010-6503 > 12 675 830 130 -- 12 7-3/8 7-5/8 Motomaster $140-150 3 year free replacement 65 010-6500 > 12 850 1045 150 -- 12 7-3/8 7-5/8 010-4100 > 12 650 800 100 -- 11-9/16 6-7/8 6-7/8 010-3400 > 12 690 850 110 -- 10-3/4 6-7/8 8 27 010-2772 > 12 710 875 120 -- 12 6-3/4 9 27F 010-2700 > 12 710 875 120 -- 12-3/8 6-3/4 9 34/78DT 010-3478 > 12 800 985 115 -- 10-3/4 6-7/8 8

https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/everstart-battery-maxx/6000195362544 EverStart Battery MAXX Built for Canada Tough , Group Size 27N , 710 CCA $126.97 • 710 CCA • 120 Minutes Reserve Capacity • 5 Year Warranty program with 3 years free replacement • Maintenance Free – never need to add acid Justy top post no screws. May fit.

https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/everstart-battery-maxx/6000195362483 EverStart Battery MAXX Built for Canada Tough , Group Size 65 , 850 CCA $133.97 850 CCA • 100 Minutes Reserve Capacity • 5 Year Warranty program with 3 years free replacement

https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/everstart-battery-maxx/6000195362498 EverStart Battery MAXX Built for Canada Tough , Group Size 41 , 650 CCA $121.97 650 CCA • 100 Minutes Reserve Capacity • 5 Year Warranty program with 3 years free replacement

https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/everstart-battery-plus/6000195362535 EverStart Battery PLUS Built for Canada Tought , Group 78 , Dual Terminal , 540 CCA $89.97 Dual Terminals – Both side post’s and top post’s • 540 CCA • 85 Minutes Reserve Capacity • 1 Year Free Replacement Warranty

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