Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 08:54:09 -0700
Reply-To: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: 1971 on Bring a Trailer for sale
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A family tree - >?? Oh yes like European Royalty -
The german cousin married to the russian father in law whose mother is my
second step sister twice removed from my uncles house -
And once in a dory
oh - and by the way --
This list and most boat orientated lists are the only two places where i
have seen an item offered for sale turn into a discussion about the 17
different ways that item was powered or refitted for power and which one
was best -- maybe aircraft guys talk like this too - i do not know ...
Regards
On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 8:42 AM, Pat Spragge <spraggepat@gmail.com> wrote:
> Porsche/Volkswagen reads like a “family tree”...
> Beetle engine case to 356 engine to 356 Carrera then back to 912 then 914
> 4 cyl then back to 912E then a halt to the 4 cyl air cooled boxer to the
> 924, 928, 944 etc.
>
> > On May 2, 2018, at 8:11 AM, Edward Maglott <emaglott3@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >
> > I think the 912 always had the 4 cylinder derived from the 356. Same
> basic
> > form factor as the VW flat 4s but a much higher performance animal.
> >
> > The best air cooled van I had was a '71. I took it on a 11,000 mile 8
> week
> > trip around the US and southern Canada when I was 21. It had one of
> those
> > hot rod "009" centrifugal advance distributors and a header. I bought it
> > for $700 in 1985. I believe on that trip I averaged about 22 mpg. it
> was
> > a sportsmobile camper conversion which was quite functional.
> >
> > If anybody reading this thread would like to buy my '86 westy, AT, 225k
> > miles in good condition but not without its typical minor vanagon flaws
> for
> > $6500, p-mail me. I really want it to go to someone who knows all about
> > vanagons. I just realized why I've been slow to sell it and wanting a
> > "vanagon-expert" buyer to get it. Realization comes having written the
> > above paragraph about the '71. After that big cross country trip I went
> > away to college and my parents sold the van to neighbors down the street.
> > 6 months later I was home and talked to them, noticing the van was not in
> > their driveway. They had been driving it and the generator light had
> come
> > on. "Old wiring" they thought and kept on going. The fan belt had
> broken
> > and they destroyed that engine I had loved and babied all across the
> > continent. I was so sad. I don't want something like that to happen to
> my
> > vanagon which I have similarly loved and babied.
> >
> > Edward
> >
> >> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 10:30 PM, KI4TLF <ki4tlf@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> You’re right.
> >>
> >> That’s what I get for doing it from memory. J
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> GregM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Pat Spragge [mailto:spraggepat@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2018 8:16 PM
> >> To: KI4TLF
> >> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >> Subject: Re: 1971 on Bring a Trailer for sale
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The Type 4 was used in the Porsche 911.
> >>
> >> Believe it was the 912 which was a 4 cylinder...same as the 914.
> >>
> >>
> >> On May 1, 2018, at 6:02 PM, KI4TLF <ki4tlf@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >>
> >> There are 2 engines that came in the VW Van's from the factory, type 1
> >> which is the upright Beetle engine and type 4 which is the Porsche
> designed
> >> pancake style from 411 series sedans. The Type 4 was used in the
> Porsche
> >> 911.
> >> The type 1 came from 1100 to 1600 cc's and the type 4 was 1700-2000
> cc's.
> >> The type 4 changeover was in 1972 models.
> >>
> >> GregM
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> >> Of Tom Buese
> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2018 12:36 PM
> >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >> Subject: Re: 1971 on Bring a Trailer for sale
> >>
> >> Yes, but VW came out w/ a pancake engine in the early 60’s for their
> Type
> >> 3 cars such as Squarebacks, Notches, Fastbacks, etc.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On May 1, 2018, at 1:11 PM, Steven Johnson <sjohnso2000@GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The later version better known as the "pancake" engine or configuration.
> >>
> >> As Jim said, they
> >>
> >> are all flat 4 engines. The earlier better known as the "upright"
> >>
> >> configuration. The change
> >>
> >> to the pancake engine came in later 1971 or 1972 there abouts....
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Steven
> >>
> >> 91 Westy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 12:33 PM, Jim. Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I **think** "upright engine" refers to the fan layout (vertical fan and
> >>
> >> blower housing) and not the cylinder layout (flat four for all VW
> >>
> >> air-cooled). I know my 69 had the "traditional" layout with the vertical
> >>
> >> fan attached to an alternator, like a beetle. Later buses had the flat
> fan.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 11:27 AM ddbjorkman@verizon.net <
> >>
> >> ddbjorkman@verizon.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> There's a flat four in this beast, according to the seller. A
> >>
> >> replacement, no doubt.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dave B.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>
> >> From: Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNET.NB.CA>
> >>
> >> To: vanagon <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> >>
> >> Sent: Mon, Apr 30, 2018 12:05 pm
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: 1971 on Bring a Trailer for sale
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> One of my favourite bread box years …. you still have the upright
> engine,
> >>
> >> but have disk brakes on the front.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 30-Apr-2018, at 12:09, Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-volkswagen-bus-3/
> >>
> >> ?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018-04-30
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> roger whittaker 604.414.6266 <(604)%20414-6266>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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