Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 18:56:11 -0400
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From: Eric Caron <eric.caron@ICLOUD.COM>
Subject: Re: Sliding door question
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OK parts ordered,
Wish me luck, I went with the new hinge, the door stop, and the bearing kit
I’ll do the work with a friend who recently removed and returned his 78 bus slider. So it is hopefully similar.
Any tips are appreciated.
I will want to clean up the track under the outer shield as I can feel some flaking paint.
Any tips on that are appreciated.
I’m planning to clean well and sand then prime and paint that hidden area with rattle can paint. So any tips on primer and paint are appreciated. It isn’t very rusty in there but the paint is starting to flake to my touch on the track.
I also have some special tape I purchased for the track from a related thread several years ago. Anyone have any thoughts on that tape and how to use it correctly and where?
Thanks for everyone’s advice and suggestions.
Eric Caron 85 GL Auto
On Jun 3, 2018, at 17:24, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
It would most likely be best to get the complete hinge assembly, part 251843336B.
You probably also need the stop, 251843876.
This is a 2 person job and preferably one of them with practice. Both the hinge and striker bolt on the van get adjusted.
Dennis
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Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 4:28 PM
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Subject: Re: Sliding door question
Hi folks,
I was able to look at other vanagon door hinges and mine is not working like others. My spring can move back and forth. the others are held in place. Mine seems out of position.
those looking at it wiht me suggested removing it and seeing about getting the spring back in place.
I don’t think my skills are up to this at least not in a timely fashion.
Myu plan is to order the hinge as Stuart recommended, and while the door is partly off I might as well replace any replaceable parts as they are likely well worn.
So, what parts can I replace? So far it sounds like the hinge and the bushing set.
I will also clean the track under the cover and probably spray that with some paint to preserve.
What else can I do to get the best life and health out of the sliding door?
Thanks,
Eric Caron
85 GL Auto
On Jun 2, 2018, at 16:25, Eric Caron <eric.caron@icloud.com> wrote:
Hi Jim and others,
It is well lubed and very clean.
Still I get no pop when opening
I get a reasonable resistence when closing.
I’ll look at some busses tomorrow to compare mine.
If my spring is broken I’m good with getting the new one or if Jim has a good one for a 85 I would be happy with that. I wanted to see if Jim had a original battery holder in his stock anyway!
Eric Caron
On Jun 2, 2018, at 13:27, Jim. Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
Replace I guess. I have later model door parts aplenty, probably the earlier ones are gone. Take off that cover (two screws, bump straight up from below) and take a look and make sure that what you have is in place and lubed. When you push it it at the back, with the flat of your hand on the rear of the door, it should not flop or collapse but should resist your push, and you should have to smack it good to push it home. Conversely, when you release the lever, it should smartly push out on its own.
Jim
On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 11:03 AM Eric Caron <eric.caron@icloud.com <mailto:eric.caron@icloud.com>> wrote:
This is great info.
I think my problem is in the back, but I am not sure how to confirm this. The spring on the door side of the rear connector seems loose and turns easily even as the door is in open and close position. I can’t imagine it is helping in any way.
Any tips on testing and ways to improve?
The rest of my door set up seems great. It runs quiet and smooth.
Tips for spring fix?
Eric Caron
85 GL auto
On Jun 1, 2018, at 17:26, Jim. Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM <mailto:jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>> wrote:
Regarding "springing out" upon opening, you've got a wound spring in the
back that jacks a steel arm out when the back is released, which carries
the back of the door out away from the body on both early and late models.
If it doesn't spring out readily, you have to do more work yourself to get
the back free. More tugging. Yes, the "long handle" early doors take more
effort to open, but if the front release and back release work
together--the timing is of course done through adjusting the cable that
connects the two--and the front and back springs and catches are in good
shape, it should pop right open with either the early or late setup.
If your cable is slack, the front may unlatch but the back release will
take extended effort to free. After more wear, it won't open at all. Time
to take a look at it.
Jim
On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 2:38 PM Jack R <jack007@comcast.net <mailto:jack007@comcast.net>> wrote:
> What year... my 84 has a different mechanism than the later models, and is
> harder to open than our friends 90.
>
>
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> Of Steve Williams
> Sent: Friday, June 1, 2018 2:19 PM
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> Subject: Re: Sliding door question
>
> Dan, good advice.
>
> Related: My slider works well, but the handle requires quite a lot of
> force. Is that normal? Is there an adjustment?
>