Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 08:03:41 -0600
Reply-To: Patrick Seurynck <climb12@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Patrick Seurynck <climb12@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Sliding door question
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Eric,
I used some of that special tape, PTFE, on my sliding door and it works
great! 84 Westy.
The surface has to be perfectly clean and the tape has to be a precision
fit with no loose ends or tabs that can catch.
It reduced friction and quieted the sliders some as well.
Patrick
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 4:56 PM Eric Caron <eric.caron@icloud.com> wrote:
> OK parts ordered,
>
> Wish me luck, I went with the new hinge, the door stop, and the
> bearing kit
>
>
> I’ll do the work with a friend who recently removed and returned his 78
> bus slider. So it is hopefully similar.
>
> Any tips are appreciated.
>
> I will want to clean up the track under the outer shield as I can feel
> some flaking paint.
>
> Any tips on that are appreciated.
>
> I’m planning to clean well and sand then prime and paint that hidden area
> with rattle can paint. So any tips on primer and paint are appreciated.
> It isn’t very rusty in there but the paint is starting to flake to my touch
> on the track.
>
> I also have some special tape I purchased for the track from a related
> thread several years ago. Anyone have any thoughts on that tape and how to
> use it correctly and where?
>
> Thanks for everyone’s advice and suggestions.
>
> Eric Caron 85 GL Auto
>
>
>
> On Jun 3, 2018, at 17:24, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> It would most likely be best to get the complete hinge assembly, part
> 251843336B.
> You probably also need the stop, 251843876.
> This is a 2 person job and preferably one of them with practice. Both the
> hinge and striker bolt on the van get adjusted.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of Eric Caron
> Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 4:28 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Sliding door question
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I was able to look at other vanagon door hinges and mine is not
> working like others. My spring can move back and forth. the others are
> held in place. Mine seems out of position.
>
> those looking at it wiht me suggested removing it and seeing about
> getting the spring back in place.
>
> I don’t think my skills are up to this at least not in a timely fashion.
>
> Myu plan is to order the hinge as Stuart recommended, and while the door
> is partly off I might as well replace any replaceable parts as they are
> likely well worn.
>
> So, what parts can I replace? So far it sounds like the hinge and the
> bushing set.
>
> I will also clean the track under the cover and probably spray that with
> some paint to preserve.
>
> What else can I do to get the best life and health out of the sliding door?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric Caron
> 85 GL Auto
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 2, 2018, at 16:25, Eric Caron <eric.caron@icloud.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jim and others,
>
> It is well lubed and very clean.
>
> Still I get no pop when opening
> I get a reasonable resistence when closing.
>
> I’ll look at some busses tomorrow to compare mine.
>
> If my spring is broken I’m good with getting the new one or if Jim has a
> good one for a 85 I would be happy with that. I wanted to see if Jim had a
> original battery holder in his stock anyway!
>
> Eric Caron
>
>
>
> On Jun 2, 2018, at 13:27, Jim. Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Replace I guess. I have later model door parts aplenty, probably the
> earlier ones are gone. Take off that cover (two screws, bump straight up
> from below) and take a look and make sure that what you have is in place
> and lubed. When you push it it at the back, with the flat of your hand on
> the rear of the door, it should not flop or collapse but should resist your
> push, and you should have to smack it good to push it home. Conversely,
> when you release the lever, it should smartly push out on its own.
>
> Jim
>
> On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 11:03 AM Eric Caron <eric.caron@icloud.com <mailto:
> eric.caron@icloud.com>> wrote:
> This is great info.
>
> I think my problem is in the back, but I am not sure how to confirm this.
> The spring on the door side of the rear connector seems loose and turns
> easily even as the door is in open and close position. I can’t imagine it
> is helping in any way.
>
> Any tips on testing and ways to improve?
>
> The rest of my door set up seems great. It runs quiet and smooth.
>
> Tips for spring fix?
>
> Eric Caron
> 85 GL auto
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 1, 2018, at 17:26, Jim. Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM <mailto:
> jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>> wrote:
>
> Regarding "springing out" upon opening, you've got a wound spring in the
> back that jacks a steel arm out when the back is released, which carries
> the back of the door out away from the body on both early and late models.
> If it doesn't spring out readily, you have to do more work yourself to get
> the back free. More tugging. Yes, the "long handle" early doors take more
> effort to open, but if the front release and back release work
> together--the timing is of course done through adjusting the cable that
> connects the two--and the front and back springs and catches are in good
> shape, it should pop right open with either the early or late setup.
>
> If your cable is slack, the front may unlatch but the back release will
> take extended effort to free. After more wear, it won't open at all. Time
> to take a look at it.
>
> Jim
>
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 2:38 PM Jack R <jack007@comcast.net <mailto:
> jack007@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> > What year... my 84 has a different mechanism than the later models, and
> is
> > harder to open than our friends 90.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com <mailto:
> vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>] On Behalf
> > Of Steve Williams
> > Sent: Friday, June 1, 2018 2:19 PM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > Subject: Re: Sliding door question
> >
> > Dan, good advice.
> >
> > Related: My slider works well, but the handle requires quite a lot of
> > force. Is that normal? Is there an adjustment?
> >
>
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