Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 19:15:34 -0400
Reply-To: Eric Caron <eric.caron@ICLOUD.COM>
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From: Eric Caron <eric.caron@ICLOUD.COM>
Subject: Re: Sliding door question
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Thanks,
Sadly, the tape is just in a ziplock and doesn’t seem to have any identifying information. I labeled it as slider door tape when it arrived. I’m sure I ordered from a link provided on the list.
It sounds like the 84 and 85 might be different so I’m a bit uncertain about the use of the tape. I’ll figure this out when the door comes off.
I still don’t even have confirmation from GW on the order so it seems like I may be waiting for a long time.
Eric Caron
85 GL Auto
On Jun 6, 2018, at 18:48, Patrick Seurynck <climb12@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, Eric, It is an ’84 Westfalia.
I used it on the entire contact face on both the upper and lower tracks that the door rides on.
Behind the removed body panel this upper contact face is approximately 4 to 5 feet long and about 3/8 inch tall.
The bottom track is approximately the same measurement.
BTW, do you know the type of special that this tape is?
I have been clogging this forum with erroneous info.
Patrick
> On Jun 6, 2018, at 3:28 PM, Eric Caron <eric.caron@ICLOUD.COM> wrote:
>
> Hi Patrick,
>
> Can you tell me what year van you used it on?
>
> Also, as. much detail about what you cover with the tape?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric Caron
> 85 GL Auto
>
>
>
> On Jun 6, 2018, at 15:57, Patrick Seurynck <climb12@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> To all that are requesting a source for the PTFE tape, I bought it a few
> years ago and I gave the leftover to a van friend who will get the name and
> measurements for me this afternoon, which I will share. Since it has been a
> while since I bought it I will not be able to come up with a source. My
> apologies.
> Patrick
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:16 AM Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> No, won’t fit without an extreme amount of mods.
>>
>> Alistair
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 9:11 AM, Pat <sesrating@AOL.COM> wrote:
>>>
>>> Will a late model door fit on a 1982? My son buggered up my door when
>> someone parked in a low car to his right where the spot was always empty
>> and he entered from the left and turned like he always did. I would ether
>> replace my door than try to have this one fixed. I know where there is or
>> was a late model door and it is even the same or close enough color.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Pat
>>> In SC near charlotte NC
>>> 86 Subi Aventurewagen weekender (possibly for sale soon)
>>> 82 Westy Last off the air cooled
>>> 69 Baja bug
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 10:03 AM, Patrick Seurynck <climb12@GMAIL.COM>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Eric,
>>>> I used some of that special tape, PTFE, on my sliding door and it works
>>>> great! 84 Westy.
>>>> The surface has to be perfectly clean and the tape has to be a precision
>>>> fit with no loose ends or tabs that can catch.
>>>> It reduced friction and quieted the sliders some as well.
>>>> Patrick
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 4:56 PM Eric Caron <eric.caron@icloud.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> OK parts ordered,
>>>>>
>>>>> Wish me luck, I went with the new hinge, the door stop, and the
>>>>> bearing kit
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I’ll do the work with a friend who recently removed and returned his
>> 78
>>>>> bus slider. So it is hopefully similar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any tips are appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will want to clean up the track under the outer shield as I can feel
>>>>> some flaking paint.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any tips on that are appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m planning to clean well and sand then prime and paint that hidden
>> area
>>>>> with rattle can paint. So any tips on primer and paint are
>> appreciated.
>>>>> It isn’t very rusty in there but the paint is starting to flake to my
>> touch
>>>>> on the track.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also have some special tape I purchased for the track from a related
>>>>> thread several years ago. Anyone have any thoughts on that tape and
>> how to
>>>>> use it correctly and where?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for everyone’s advice and suggestions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric Caron 85 GL Auto
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 3, 2018, at 17:24, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It would most likely be best to get the complete hinge assembly, part
>>>>> 251843336B.
>>>>> You probably also need the stop, 251843876.
>>>>> This is a 2 person job and preferably one of them with practice. Both
>> the
>>>>> hinge and striker bolt on the van get adjusted.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Eric Caron
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 4:28 PM
>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Sliding door question
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I was able to look at other vanagon door hinges and mine is not
>>>>> working like others. My spring can move back and forth. the others
>> are
>>>>> held in place. Mine seems out of position.
>>>>>
>>>>> those looking at it wiht me suggested removing it and seeing about
>>>>> getting the spring back in place.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don’t think my skills are up to this at least not in a timely
>> fashion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Myu plan is to order the hinge as Stuart recommended, and while the
>> door
>>>>> is partly off I might as well replace any replaceable parts as they are
>>>>> likely well worn.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, what parts can I replace? So far it sounds like the hinge and the
>>>>> bushing set.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will also clean the track under the cover and probably spray that
>> with
>>>>> some paint to preserve.
>>>>>
>>>>> What else can I do to get the best life and health out of the sliding
>> door?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric Caron
>>>>> 85 GL Auto
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 2, 2018, at 16:25, Eric Caron <eric.caron@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jim and others,
>>>>>
>>>>> It is well lubed and very clean.
>>>>>
>>>>> Still I get no pop when opening
>>>>> I get a reasonable resistence when closing.
>>>>>
>>>>> I’ll look at some busses tomorrow to compare mine.
>>>>>
>>>>> If my spring is broken I’m good with getting the new one or if Jim has
>> a
>>>>> good one for a 85 I would be happy with that. I wanted to see if Jim
>> had a
>>>>> original battery holder in his stock anyway!
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric Caron
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 2, 2018, at 13:27, Jim. Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Replace I guess. I have later model door parts aplenty, probably the
>>>>> earlier ones are gone. Take off that cover (two screws, bump straight
>> up
>>>>> from below) and take a look and make sure that what you have is in
>> place
>>>>> and lubed. When you push it it at the back, with the flat of your hand
>> on
>>>>> the rear of the door, it should not flop or collapse but should resist
>> your
>>>>> push, and you should have to smack it good to push it home. Conversely,
>>>>> when you release the lever, it should smartly push out on its own.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 11:03 AM Eric Caron <eric.caron@icloud.com
>> <mailto:
>>>>> eric.caron@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>> This is great info.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think my problem is in the back, but I am not sure how to confirm
>> this.
>>>>> The spring on the door side of the rear connector seems loose and turns
>>>>> easily even as the door is in open and close position. I can’t
>> imagine it
>>>>> is helping in any way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any tips on testing and ways to improve?
>>>>>
>>>>> The rest of my door set up seems great. It runs quiet and smooth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tips for spring fix?
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric Caron
>>>>> 85 GL auto
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 1, 2018, at 17:26, Jim. Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM <mailto:
>>>>> jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding "springing out" upon opening, you've got a wound spring in
>> the
>>>>> back that jacks a steel arm out when the back is released, which
>> carries
>>>>> the back of the door out away from the body on both early and late
>> models.
>>>>> If it doesn't spring out readily, you have to do more work yourself to
>> get
>>>>> the back free. More tugging. Yes, the "long handle" early doors take
>> more
>>>>> effort to open, but if the front release and back release work
>>>>> together--the timing is of course done through adjusting the cable that
>>>>> connects the two--and the front and back springs and catches are in
>> good
>>>>> shape, it should pop right open with either the early or late setup.
>>>>>
>>>>> If your cable is slack, the front may unlatch but the back release will
>>>>> take extended effort to free. After more wear, it won't open at all.
>> Time
>>>>> to take a look at it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 2:38 PM Jack R <jack007@comcast.net <mailto:
>>>>> jack007@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What year... my 84 has a different mechanism than the later models,
>> and
>>>>> is
>>>>>> harder to open than our friends 90.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com <mailto:
>>>>> vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>] On Behalf
>>>>>> Of Steve Williams
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 1, 2018 2:19 PM
>>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Sliding door question
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan, good advice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Related: My slider works well, but the handle requires quite a lot of
>>>>>> force. Is that normal? Is there an adjustment?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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